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Zion didn’t seem on board with the rest day against Detroit

Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:44 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:44 pm
Check out Zions answer to if the rest day messed up his rhythm.

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Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5396 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:50 pm to
He should be more pissed about the rest day he took tonight on defense
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112637 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:51 pm to
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He should be more pissed about the rest day he took tonight on defense
Tonight, or this season entirely.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:55 pm to
I’m not making excuses for his shite defense but part of it may be hes reserving his energy since hes not in shape to play defense. I also think maybe him playing is best way to get in shape but maybe not. What bothers me is why is this team and Zion never working together when it comes to managing his own body? It seems like Zion wanted to play but it was the team’s call to rest him. Again not sure what the right plan is but this answer from Zion means he didn’t agree with it.
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 9:57 pm
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
12945 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:56 pm to
All he does is gamble on defense and quit on plays. Too busy clapping at the refs to get back on defense.
Your offense wasn't the problem in the game. It's your defense and effort on everything outside of offense.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
79222 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:01 pm to
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It's your defense and effort on everything outside of offense.


His effort on offense when he doesn't have the ball on offense is a problem too.

He has played in 5 games this season and has only gotten 6 or more rebounds twice.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112637 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:08 pm to
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What bothers me is why is this team and Zion never working together
I know it's cliche but the best of the best have something in common... They want it and nothing will stop them from getting what they want, not even your own team.
Meaning, if Zion wanted to play, then he needs to step up, overrule the team and say he's playing and that's that.

But 4+ seasons in, there's no indication whatsoever that Zion is wired like that.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15790 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:12 pm to
I'm truthfully tired of watching Zion laboring when he doesn't have the ball. I get how special he is with the ball in his hands, but he's a chore to watch otherwise.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:13 pm to
Honestly with that response he might have made a fuss about it but unlike other teams Griffin has a lot of control. Im not taking blame off Zion here but if hes not on board why does Griffin or the team force him to do shite.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25975 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:29 pm to
I'm glad Zion realizes he should be playing last game. A toe the line response would be worse
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55933 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:36 pm to
Buddy gets too tired to play both sides of the ball and wants to be mad at the team. Maybe come into the season in shape.

This supposed “all-in fitness and diet” training he was supposedly doing is shite.

I’ll get downvoted but he looks bigger than he did in most of the years past
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 10:38 pm
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22201 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 11:38 pm to
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I’ll get downvoted but he looks bigger than he did in most of the years past
This. Last time he played a b2b he blew his hamstring off the bone just jogging up the court the next game.

No one else sat the b2b out. They're trying to save him from himself because 5 years into his career he refuses to get in shape.

This isn't a team issue. Its ALL on Zion. No one else on the team, or in the league, has these problems. He's barely into his 20s, he could drop 20lbs in less than a month with a decent diet and half-assed cardio, but he won't do it. He's content being fat.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62077 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 12:27 am to
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It seems like Zion wanted to play but it was the team’s call to rest him


Do you think 23-year-old MichaelJordan would have been told to sit the 5 game of the season when he was healthy? Lebron? Kobe? Larry Bird? They would have physically fought anybody trying to get in their way to prevent them from playing in the 5th fricking game of their 23-year-old seasons .and in their late 20s/early 30s, they would have fought any healthy 23-year-old trying to sit the 5th game of the season. Zion should have dressed and dared Willie and/or Griff to physically prevent him from playing in that game. Gayle too if she wanted to get involved. But he’s a fat arse bitch who doesn’t give a shite. Hey him the frick out with the quickness.
Posted by aswemajor
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2011
1728 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 12:43 am to
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His effort on offense when he doesn't have the ball on offense is a problem too.

He has played in 5 games this season and has only gotten 6 or more rebounds twice.


Agreed. Zion's defense when he had to switch on to Trae was laughable. He tries for a second to stay in front then gets beat and just pokes at the ball.

Atlanta was very aware that Z vs Trae was a mismatch. Trae had a frickin field day out there in the second half. I feel like Zion has the lateral quickness to stay in front of almost anybody ( of course he's a freak athlete), but maybe he doesn't? Think it's gotta be a lack of discipline or effort. What do y'all think?

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20737 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:13 am to
Willie said that the rest day was part of the plan before the season started and that Zion was on board with that plan.

I don't think that Zion was mad about the rest day. He was mad because they lost and he didn't play well.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19695 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:23 am to
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Agreed. Zion's defense when he had to switch on to Trae was laughable. He tries for a second to stay in front then gets beat and just pokes at the ball.



I'm so sick of fatter James Harden
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112637 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:32 am to
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Zion's defense when he had to switch on to Trae was laughable.
I like when Zion fell for the Trae pump fake when Trae was 37 feet from the basket
Posted by Pelicans15
Bossier
Member since Mar 2019
913 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:35 am to
To be fair. I think the shot clock was running out. And trae has been known to shoot those.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112637 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:47 am to
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And trae has been known to shoot those.
Let him, a near 40 footer is a win for the defense.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 11/5/23 at 8:46 am to
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Let him, a near 40 footer is a win for the defense.


Someone posted a shot chart of all the long ball 3s last season I believe, and Steph was the only one with an actual decent percentage from well beyond the 3 point line. Dame wasn't good and Trae was bad IIRC. I'm not saying don't guard them at all, but like you said, you want them to take a semi contested 30+ footer unless it's Steph.
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 8:47 am
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