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NCAA is after Jim Harbaugh again

Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:45 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:45 am
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Sources: NCAA investigating Michigan football for alleged rule violations related to sign stealing

The NCAA is investigating the Michigan football program for allegedly violating rules that prohibit teams from scouting, in person, future opponents, industry sources told Yahoo Sports.

The allegation pertains to NCAA Bylaw 11.6.1, which reads: “Off-campus, in-person scouring of future opponents (in the same season) is prohibited,” sources say.




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Teams are normally provided extensive video footage to scout opponents. At issue, according to sources, is whether Michigan used unnamed individuals to attend games of both scheduled opponents and possible College Football Playoff opponents in an effort to gather information on the signs they use to call both offensive and defensive plays.

Sign stealing is not technically prohibited and has a long and colorful history as part of the game. Scouting opponents in person has been prohibited since 1994. Whether the NCAA believes Michigan was using staffers or others who may be loyal to the program is unknown. So, too, is whether information was detailed via video or some other means or if head coach Jim Harbaugh is involved.

Two of Michigan's opponents this season told Yahoo Sports they became aware that Michigan knew their play signs. Sign stealing does not violate NCAA rules unless the team uses in-game, electronic equipment to relay the information to players on the field or amongst coaches. The 2023 NCAA football rule book addresses sign stealing in a general way under a section titled Prohibited Field Equipment. It states that “any attempt to record, either through audio or video means, any signals given by an opposing player, coach or other team personnel is prohibited.” No corresponding penalty is listed.





Michigan Schedule thus far:

East Carolina
UNLV
Bowling Green
Rutgers
Nebraska
Minnesota
Indiana

Why the hell would they need to steal signs from these teams


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This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
53979 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:47 am to
THUG POS
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70258 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:47 am to
Why cant B1G teams just play within the rules?


Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
54062 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:49 am to
I refuse to believe every coach doesn't do this. It's just learning tells.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
34878 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:51 am to
The only fair solution to this is to give Michigan the death penalty.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130561 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Two of Michigan's opponents this season told Yahoo Sports they became aware that Michigan knew their play signs.

Any chance of Rutgers being one of them?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36598 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:53 am to
It's pretty absurd that you can't scout future opponents live.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59131 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:55 am to
Yeah, this is his last year at Michigan
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53909 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:56 am to
How would they even police this?
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20664 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 11:58 am to
I honestly didn't know you couldn't send scouts to other games.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4992 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:00 pm to
Guaranteed every SEC coach does this.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
102636 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:01 pm to
Ncaa seems determined to force one of the best and highest profile coaches out. Seems dumb af to me.

CFB is immeasurably better with Michigan being a perennial top 10 team
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69614 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:01 pm to
I am sure all teams do this. I don't understand why it is even a rule TBH

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the team uses in-game, electronic equipment to relay the information to players on the field or amongst coaches.


this should be a problem
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19242 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:01 pm to
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I honestly didn't know you couldn't send scouts to other games.



Seems ridiculous.

Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54381 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:02 pm to
SEC teams probably have analysts attend spring games
NCAA is just pissed at Harbaugh for continuing to make them look like idiots

Look at Bill Self, he hasn't stoppped talking about NCAA issues yet LSU and Wade were told to not say anything.
Posted by Raoul Stimulato
Hale Bopp Comet
Member since Sep 2022
2125 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:06 pm to
Jimmy’s got his nuts on the table.

In it to win it.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55439 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:08 pm to
frick the NCAA. Teams have been doing this forever.

Also, it’s Michigan. Nothing will happen. Central Michigan or Eastern Michigan need to prepare for probation.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:08 pm to
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How would they even police this?



I presume this has to be from someone that did that for UM is now ticked.,.and calling the NCAA or the other general means is...someone gets to drinking and talking otherwise no way the NCaA could audit every school for their travel plans ( even if these trips would even show up)
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7253 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40001 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 12:24 pm to
i hate the NCAA as much as the next guy but michigan fans are universally smug about how clean their program is so i rather enjoy this
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