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Posted on 10/18/23 at 10:50 am to BugAC
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It's really the idiot organizers fault for not filling out the basic paperwork correctly. That's why it was shut down. Sure the courts were dragging their feet and trying to delay the incorporation, but the SG organizers gave them an easy layup by screwing up basic paperwork.
Lol
If it were that simple.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:01 am to BugAC
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It's really the idiot organizers fault for not filling out the basic paperwork correctly. That's why it was shut down. Sure the courts were dragging their feet and trying to delay the incorporation, but the SG organizers gave them an easy layup by screwing up basic paperwork.
The petition was correct and complete as certified by the Registrar of Voters, the Secretary of State, and the Governor. The fact that a lawsuit, brought by someone who by state law has no standing, was allowed to continue is a testament to the corruption imbedded Louisiana's political and judicial systems.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 11:03 am
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:13 am to LolStarFishlol
My precinct is within the proposed St G. city. The majority (including me) voted against the resolution to be part of St G. Why are the BR neighborhoods against inclusion not allowed out?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:27 am to LolStarFishlol
Keep donating to the organizers, that new city is just around the corner!
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:29 am to Damone
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Keep donating to the organizers, that new city is just around the corner!
Fraudulent voter says what?
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:31 am to BigJim
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Broome and allies changed the law just to screw with St. George. That's the part that tripped the proponents up. Just get a majority vote to change it back to what it was (what it was for Central, and every other municipality before then) hold another vote and they win
Agreed, but it's frustraing that the proponents could not figure that out.
Fix the law and try again and hope it's easy enough for the proponents to get it.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:39 am to BigJim
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Broome and allies changed the law just to screw with St. George. That's the part that tripped the proponents up. Just get a majority vote to change it back to what it was (what it was for Central, and every other municipality before then) hold another vote and they win.
Tried to change the laws...failed on every attempt. The laws didn't change from when Central conducted their incorporation effort.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:42 am to tommy2tone1999
Wasn’t it thrown out because they attempted to change the law between the starting of the petition and the verifying of signatures?
If so, it isn’t relevant to the current case but will be if it has to go again. If it doesn’t get tossed out on constitutional reasons.
If so, it isn’t relevant to the current case but will be if it has to go again. If it doesn’t get tossed out on constitutional reasons.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:43 am to SurfOrYak
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My precinct is within the proposed St G. city. The majority (including me) voted against the resolution to be part of St G. Why are the BR neighborhoods against inclusion not allowed out?
Snarky answer: if St G. isn't allowed to have self-determination, why should you?
Real answer-Are you on the edge of the proposed district? They originally had Gardere in, but removed them after they "revoked" their signatures. So they did change based on feedback. They might boot you could just to help their vote count, but the contours of the district still have to make sense.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:47 am to teke184
No, the lawsuit alleges that St. George organizers did not properly list the services to be provided once the city was incorporated. They did list them, but apparently the opposition thinks that every petition sheet must be accompanied with a detailed breakdown. How does one do that with the amount of info already on the sheet? They gave a detailed listing in the proposed budget, and somethings cannot be determined until the city is incorporated.
ETA: They tried to change the law such that everyone in the parish would have a vote on the issue, but all the legislators tried to get their parishes exempt, and it ended up that the bill if it became law would only apply to EBR.
ETA: They tried to change the law such that everyone in the parish would have a vote on the issue, but all the legislators tried to get their parishes exempt, and it ended up that the bill if it became law would only apply to EBR.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 11:50 am
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:50 am to tommy2tone1999
That’s a different issue from the one I am thinking of.
But apparently they are trying to argue that having the entire plan of government on there is required, not putting a URL to the plan on there.
This isn’t a case of the petitioners hiding what their plans were, this is splitting hairs to try and get a technical victory and that is still a petition which got signed off on by various officials including the inbred sloth in the mansion.
But apparently they are trying to argue that having the entire plan of government on there is required, not putting a URL to the plan on there.
This isn’t a case of the petitioners hiding what their plans were, this is splitting hairs to try and get a technical victory and that is still a petition which got signed off on by various officials including the inbred sloth in the mansion.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:52 am to tommy2tone1999
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ETA: They tried to change the law such that everyone in the parish would have a vote on the issue, but all the legislators tried to get their parishes exempt, and it ended up that the bill if it became law would only apply to EBR.
Which falls into “bill of attainder” territory.
Can’t restrict only one group attempting to do something, you have to make it wide enough to cover more individuals.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:52 am to teke184
Correct. One thing they did manage to change was the time it takes to gather enough signatures on a petition. Before, there was no end date, now it must be completed in 270 days, which SG organizers and volunteers did.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/18/23 at 11:55 am to teke184
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This isn’t a case of the petitioners hiding what their plans were, this is splitting hairs to try and get a technical victory and that is still a petition which got signed off on by various officials
Combine that with the fact that it overturns a vote of the people. Frankly, I am shocked at the running (but not an attorney).
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:02 pm to LolStarFishlol
It has a damn strong chance now.
Still bothers me that the will of the voters is being ignored there. It should already be it’s own city.
Still bothers me that the will of the voters is being ignored there. It should already be it’s own city.
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:19 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Agreed, but it's frustraing that the proponents could not figure that out.
There was nothing to figure out. There was no precedence. The ruling was entirely subjective. How do you decide whether or not a petition had enough information?
It’s like holding in football, if so desired you could call it in every play.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:27 pm to LolStarFishlol
Knowing his record - that is, if you do - really believe he would involve himself in something/anything that could expose him to any and all of the "ists/isms?"
It's even interesting to speculate on how he would've handled this recent case in Orleans concerning a Soros District Attorney who only accepts 52% of the most violent arrestees for prosecution and has a 6% conviction rate - being carjacked along with his mother.
A special set of circumstances that require the D.A. to recuse himself in their prosecution, even supposedly the Criminal Court judges, leaving the prosecution of the two accused up to the next, incoming Attorney General - who we here hope is Liz Murrill.
Might've been entertaining with Landry still in that position.
It's even interesting to speculate on how he would've handled this recent case in Orleans concerning a Soros District Attorney who only accepts 52% of the most violent arrestees for prosecution and has a 6% conviction rate - being carjacked along with his mother.
A special set of circumstances that require the D.A. to recuse himself in their prosecution, even supposedly the Criminal Court judges, leaving the prosecution of the two accused up to the next, incoming Attorney General - who we here hope is Liz Murrill.
Might've been entertaining with Landry still in that position.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 12:57 pm to doubleb
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The city thing doesn’t change the process. It was just a political tactic.
Correct in it doesn’t change the process. But it should make it a little easier to sell the school district as St. George would be by far the largest city without its own schools.
Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:09 pm to BigBinBR
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Correct in it doesn’t change the process. But it should make it a little easier to sell the school district as St. George would be by far the largest city without its own schools.
I agree.
Btw, I want both. Initially I just cared about the schools, but now I have more information, and I can easily see that the powers that be aren’t working in our interests.
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