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re: Hospital in Gaza hit- hundreds dead (Possibly hit by Hamas rocket)

Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:31 pm to
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:31 pm to
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Occam finds his sharpest edge at somebody else firing the missile (elsewhere claimed to be a "JDAM" not a roman candle)


Then you don’t know how to apply Occams Razor.

The simplest explanation is an errant launch nearby.

The more complex explanation is Isreal fired a single shot (not likely) targeting a hospital (not likely) before the Hamas launches so that it struck during the Hamas launch for cover. Which means they would have to anticipate the Hamas launch for cover and launch theirs before Hamas (highly unlikely).

This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:35 pm to
What a relief that a country that allowed terrorists to just ride bikes across their border is so militarily competent that none of their missiles ever hit anything that they do not intend to hit.

It killed civilians "ISRAEL DIDN'T DO IT THEY DON'T KILL CIVILIANS!". God's Chosen Weapons Nav System, apparently.

Jeez....

Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:43 pm to
There's video on X showing the hospital strike. It sounds and looks identical to an American JDAM missile. A high velocity, targeting strike.

The same video shows a Hamas missile for comparison.

It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly.

You decide
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:46 pm to
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Then you don’t know how to apply Occams Razor.
so you know how to apply this "razor", huh?

I thought you were full of shite - thats why I questioned your Occamness

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

There's video on X showing the hospital strike. It sounds and looks identical to an American JDAM missile. A high velocity, targeting strike.

The same video shows a Hamas missile for comparison.

It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly.
yep, one of the reasons I think Israel is changing their story

and so hoping the Hamas spokesman is incorrect about it being an American strike - but it is election thieving usurping criminals in Washington that I dont trust - not one bit
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
9705 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:50 pm to
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There's video on X showing the hospital strike. It sounds and looks identical to an American JDAM missile. A high velocity, targeting strike.

and someone here said the sound was identical to a Hamas rocket..

neither one of you posted a link..
eta: you posted a link as I was writing this.. will watch now

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It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly.

So your theory is IDF planned it at the same exact time as Hamas firing off a shite ton of rockets.. attacking a hospital that they didn’t warn to evacuate.. and all of the warnings to the other hospitals were decoys so that they could drop a JDAM on the hospital they really wanted to destroy..



At the end of the day, both sides said they didn’t do it, therefore it is either a 3rd party or someone is lying..

Who benefits from the lie?
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 4:52 pm
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3126 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:54 pm to
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Who benefits from the lie?


Whoever tells it
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
9705 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:56 pm to
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The same video shows a Hamas missile for comparison. It isn't a missile that just floated down and landed haphazardly. You decide

Good link. More research required, but there is definitely an increased possibility that it was a JDAM hit the hospital.

Does Israel not have JDAM’s? What is the “Biden supplied it” comment someone made?
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:56 pm to
I'm saying that idea that it was a missile that misfired and fell back down seems implausible when you see the velocity at which it hits the hospital.

I wouldn't expect a missile that fizzled to impact at such intensity.

I'm saying the official "Israel doesn't miss its targets" line is to me no more believable than they targeted the wrong area.

These are 20 year olds firing these things. Do you know any 20 year olds??



Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27561 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:58 pm to
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Does Israel not have JDAM’s?

They do.
quote:

What is the “Biden supplied it” comment someone made?

We’re talking about some random guy making conclusions from YouTube videos of missile strikes in other places. I wouldn’t expect hard hitting analysis.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:59 pm to
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Does Israel not have JDAM’s? What is the “Biden supplied it” comment someone made?
There are several stories out today

- Errant roman candle that turned into a JDAM

- from IDF

- from USA

- JDAM belongs to Israel

- JDAM (which is made in USA) belongs to USA
Posted by williejameshuft
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2012
159 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:00 pm to
Is there a way to confirm the audio on the hospital video wasn't altered? Without that, it seems like a failed ground to ground rocket.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17546 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:00 pm to
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Here is a link to the video. It looks like what you are saying is what is clearly a lie. LINK


Are you an utter fxcking moron? I mean how can you definitely say that the video proves anything other than a bunch of Pali’s went to Jahannam?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27561 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

I'm saying that idea that it was a missile that misfired and fell back down seems implausible when you see the velocity at which it hits the hospital.

It could have been fired elsewhere. “Misfire” doesn’t have to mean it failed on the launch pad.

Could easily have just gone off course, been fired accidentally, or lost whatever shitty guidance mechanism it had.


Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13364 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Palestinian Health Ministry


You do realize Hamas runs the Palestinian Health Ministry, right?
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3646 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:02 pm to
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At the end of the day, both sides said they didn’t do it, therefore it is either a 3rd party or someone is lying..


Does it matter? Most posters here plus Lindsay Graham have already decided Israel can kill every civilian in Gaza and still hold the moral high ground. Who cares if they targeted a hospital? Didn’t most of y’all want all of Gaza razed, turned into a plowed field, etc?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141718 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:06 pm to
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Didn’t most of y’all want all of Gaza razed, turned into a plowed field


My vote was for a water park.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
9705 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:09 pm to
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Does it matter? Most posters here plus Lindsay Graham have already decided Israel can kill every civilian in Gaza and still hold the moral high ground. Who cares if they targeted a hospital? Didn’t most of y’all want all of Gaza razed, turned into a plowed field, etc?

Who cares? Well I care because IDF said they didn’t do it. If they had, I wouldn’t blame them after what happened, but i would be a little bit confused as to why they warned some hospitals, but not this one.

I care because someone is lying here..
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
6194 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:09 pm to
Israel refers to this as "mowing the grass", according to Scott Ritter on Judge Napolinano's show, "Judging Freedom", today.

LINK
Posted by Audustxx
Member since Jul 2022
1134 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:11 pm to
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