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100 Yards & 60 Minutes of Black Power
Posted on 10/7/23 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 10/7/23 at 10:09 pm
LINK . Sharing one of my old favorite articles from Esquire magazine before the days of Danny Kanell & only P5 schools actually "created" NFL players like Prime.
" Last season 18 Grambling alumni played in the NFL/AFL, and only Notre Dame , with 26 , had more"-
FAMU (11), Southern( 9), TSU(8), Jackson State & UMES(7) & many more from HBCU'S. I curse the day Danny Kanell & p5's from the South masterminded the key to player " development " like only they can do.
" Last season 18 Grambling alumni played in the NFL/AFL, and only Notre Dame , with 26 , had more"-
FAMU (11), Southern( 9), TSU(8), Jackson State & UMES(7) & many more from HBCU'S. I curse the day Danny Kanell & p5's from the South masterminded the key to player " development " like only they can do.
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 10:13 pm to sugar71
Dude do u remember Jerry Rice
Posted on 10/7/23 at 10:15 pm to sugar71
You’re burying the lead. Southern University Law Center posted a 49% bar passage rate this July. The media is trying to keep such an uplifting story from the public.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 11:01 pm to sugar71
I’m afraid that few, if any, could have an open and completely honest discussion of the issues raised by this article.
People want to believe the issue is 100 percent one way or the other.
People want to believe the issue is 100 percent one way or the other.
Posted on 10/8/23 at 12:40 am to sugar71
That's a good Esquire article . Recommended read. The 18 players "developed" without p5 money that season:
Willie Davis(Hofer)
Willie Brown ( Hofer)
Buck Buchanan ( Hofer)
Ernie Ladd (3x all pro / 4 x pro bowl. Should be HOF)
Rosey Taylor(3x all pro )
Garland Boyette ( 2x pro bowl)
Willie Williams ( 1x pro bowl)
Nehemiah Wilson (1× pro bowl)
Clifton McNeil ( 1x All pro)
Willie Young ( 10 yrs)
Lane Howell (8 yrs)
Mike Howell ( 8yrs)
Frank Cornish( 7 yrs)
Alphonse Dotson( 7 yrs) Santana Dotsons pops
Henry Dyer( 4 yrs)
JD Garrett(4 yrs)
Jim Griffin ( 3 yrs)
Goldie sellers ( 4 yrs & several records)
6 defensive backs ( 4 all pro) . The original " DBU" I guess? Where would these young men be without the expert knowledge & development of P5/ SEC schools?
Willie Davis(Hofer)
Willie Brown ( Hofer)
Buck Buchanan ( Hofer)
Ernie Ladd (3x all pro / 4 x pro bowl. Should be HOF)
Rosey Taylor(3x all pro )
Garland Boyette ( 2x pro bowl)
Willie Williams ( 1x pro bowl)
Nehemiah Wilson (1× pro bowl)
Clifton McNeil ( 1x All pro)
Willie Young ( 10 yrs)
Lane Howell (8 yrs)
Mike Howell ( 8yrs)
Frank Cornish( 7 yrs)
Alphonse Dotson( 7 yrs) Santana Dotsons pops
Henry Dyer( 4 yrs)
JD Garrett(4 yrs)
Jim Griffin ( 3 yrs)
Goldie sellers ( 4 yrs & several records)
6 defensive backs ( 4 all pro) . The original " DBU" I guess? Where would these young men be without the expert knowledge & development of P5/ SEC schools?
Posted on 10/8/23 at 1:45 am to sugar71
Interesting. I guess black players in the 60s weren't quite integrated with the Power 5 schools, so they went to HBCUs. Obviously blacks are more athletic than whites, and the NFL was focused on just getting the better players. Now the power 5 does recruit blacks with no problem, the dynamic has changed leaving the lesser athletic blacks going to HBCU's. Maybe it changes, but it'd be hard to see with more money being at power 5 schools that it would change.
I don't think the power 5 got players to switch from HBCU's to their teams because of player development. It was likely because they just have more money, nicer amenities, bigger/better stadium, better resources, nicer lounges/cafeterias, nicer dorms, TV contracts, public presence. More of a money thing to me than coaching.
I mean if you got an offer in 70s to play at LSU or Southern and say player and coaching talent was equal at both schools, you'd choose LSU simply for the reasons above.
I don't think the power 5 got players to switch from HBCU's to their teams because of player development. It was likely because they just have more money, nicer amenities, bigger/better stadium, better resources, nicer lounges/cafeterias, nicer dorms, TV contracts, public presence. More of a money thing to me than coaching.
I mean if you got an offer in 70s to play at LSU or Southern and say player and coaching talent was equal at both schools, you'd choose LSU simply for the reasons above.
This post was edited on 10/8/23 at 1:51 am
Posted on 10/8/23 at 1:52 am to lsusa
quote:Yeah . Southerners typically shy away from & attempt to rewrite or downplay its horrible history & explain why over 100 HBCUs exist / were created. Discussions about " Seperate but Equal" being complete bs contrived by Supremacists was settled in 1955. It doesn't really take an urbane & Harvard educated Esquire journalist to point out that Grambling wasn't quite an Ivy League school. But this is a sports board right?
I’m afraid that few, if any, could have an open and completely honest discussion of the issues raised by this article.
People want to believe the issue is 100 percent one way or the other.
Doesn't appear that athletes needed the SEC / P5s to be " developed ".
Posted on 10/8/23 at 2:07 am to Saunson69
Spot on with the last paragraph.
I remember GSU players recently refusing to show up to weight lifting because the facility was covered in mold, among other things. I don't know how Eddie Robinson did it as long as he did. Their facilities were/are terrible. Stepping on their campus was like stepping into the late 70s. Zero $$ went to improving that school/sports facilities.
I can only assume other HBCUs are the same. I mean Ed Reeds first day as HC had the team picking up trash at the stadium.
I remember GSU players recently refusing to show up to weight lifting because the facility was covered in mold, among other things. I don't know how Eddie Robinson did it as long as he did. Their facilities were/are terrible. Stepping on their campus was like stepping into the late 70s. Zero $$ went to improving that school/sports facilities.
I can only assume other HBCUs are the same. I mean Ed Reeds first day as HC had the team picking up trash at the stadium.
Posted on 10/8/23 at 7:12 am to sugar71
How many of those guys are dead?
Posted on 10/8/23 at 7:23 am to sugar71
quote:
I curse the day Danny Kanell & p5's from the South masterminded the key to player " development " like only they can do.
Damn my man really hates integration
Posted on 10/8/23 at 9:04 am to sugar71
Danny Kanell is a wanker
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
Posted on 10/8/23 at 9:16 am to sugar71
What exactly is the point of this thread? Are you upset that black kids are choosing to go to SEC schools instead of HBCUs?
Posted on 10/8/23 at 9:30 am to VADawg
quote:
What exactly is the point of this thread?
Yt pipo bad
Posted on 10/8/23 at 9:57 am to VADawg
quote:
What exactly is the point of this thread? Are you upset that black kids are choosing to go to SEC schools instead of HBCUs?
His dumbass thinks HBCU’s can develop talent as well as P5 schools. His evidence are all the players from the 60’s and 70’s.
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:05 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Snow flake op. Whining about. Whitey and the man
Posted on 10/8/23 at 10:27 am to VADawg
quote:
What exactly is the point of this thread?
So the biggest racist on this board can flaunt his stupidity.
quote:
Are you upset that black kids are choosing to go to SEC schools instead of HBCUs?
Yes. He has stated this several times before.
Posted on 10/8/23 at 11:25 am to Open Your Eyes
quote:
Yes. He has stated this several times before.
Maybe they should get their own house in order instead of whining about everyone else, then. HBCUs are nothing but grift factories these days. They couldn't even fricking clean Ed Reed's office for him before he showed up for his first day on the job. Why would anyone want to go there?
How long did it take for Deion's speakers to be stolen out of his truck in Jackson? How little did the school and administration care when that happened?
Posted on 10/8/23 at 12:23 pm to Saunson69
quote:
Obviously blacks are more athletic than whites, and the NFL was focused on just getting the better players
I never could understand why it is ok to say this.
While at the same time it is wrong to say that NFL teams hire more white coaches and GM's because white people are smarter and more intelligent than blacks as a group.
Posted on 10/8/23 at 1:11 pm to VADawg
quote:
They couldn't even fricking clean Ed Reed's office for him before he showed up for his first day on the job. Why would anyone want to go there? How long did it take for Deion's speakers to be stolen out of his truck in Jackson? How little did the school and administration care when that happened?
Both Reed and Sanders are Uncle Tom sellouts according to OP because they opened the curtain for everyone else to see how truly shitty things are at hbcu’s.
And because sanders left an hbcu for a power 5 school.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 6:41 am to S
quote:So are the fans that believe certain athletes need them or their " exposure". Tiny Gram/ S.U. debunked this myth decades ago by routinely fielding more Pro players than Blue Blood programs. Zero exposure & massive underfunding , but the Scouts learned where they need to look. A big pet peeve of mine & a classmate ( HS assistant coach) who has had to continually convince kids that the low level g5/ FCS scholarship offers are great opportunities.
Danny Kanell is a wanker
I'm fine with a an athlete impressed with the wealth , hype of big time Football, but have low tolerance for those believing that they need them. It's a myth that's been debunked already.
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