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re: Food Plot Woes
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:54 pm to No Colors
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:54 pm to No Colors
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joint vetch seed
I’m sure you’ve done this for many years and have had good success with it. Just an FYI. I was involved with a study done at idlewild research center many years ago where we tested multiple spring/summer plants…tonnage, protein, digestibility, etc. Joint vetch, while high in protein, was very low in digestible tonnage. The fiber in the plants is just too high to be of good benefit. Even though it is over 30% protein, it’s around 50% digestible, so that brings it down to the 15% range. If you have enough land to handle the browse pressure, there really is nothing better than soybeans. Very high digestibility and over 30% protein. It just isn’t browse tolerant. The best of both worlds? Alyce clover. Grows much like vetch, slightly lower in protein, but far, far higher digestibility % and the best browse tolerant plant we grew.
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:04 pm to Spunky
Your’s is much farther along than mine. Looks great.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:44 am to Spunky
Man I would love for mine to look like that.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:40 am to Spunky
That looks beautiful... and I'm jealous!
I held off planting until mid-November and even though I've had plenty of rain I just haven't gotten a lot of growth.
I held off planting until mid-November and even though I've had plenty of rain I just haven't gotten a lot of growth.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 9:58 am to bbvdd
Any advice on what to plant in smaller plots (around 1/3 an acre) going forward?
I had great growth, but browsing pressure never really let it take off.
I had great growth, but browsing pressure never really let it take off.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 10:22 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Any advice on what to plant in smaller plots (around 1/3 an acre) going forward?
I had great growth, but browsing pressure never really let it take off.
You need bigger plots.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:21 am to Spunky
Looks great. Mine looked good but I am getting to much rain and it's going down. But my plot is in low land so it holds water but that did help during the drought.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 11:50 am to Fratigerguy
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Joint vetch, while high in protein, was very low in digestible tonnage.
I think you may have that mixed up with another type of vetch:
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American jointvetch is a warm-season annual legume that is often underutilized but can have tremendous impacts in a food plot program. In an LSU AgCenter study, researchers found that when American jointvetch was available in a pine-dominated landscape it composed 33% of summer-fall deer diets. They also found that when compared to other available native forages, American jointvetch was higher in crude protein and was the most digestible
LSU AGCenter
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:51 pm to bbvdd
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Your’s is much farther along than mine. Looks great.
Thanks, I got it planted early part of October during a rain. Only issue I have is tractor tires killing my turnips my last application of 34-0-0. It's not horrible but aesthetically it pisses me off.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 3:58 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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Any advice on what to plant in smaller plots (around 1/3 an acre) going forward?
I had great growth, but browsing pressure never really let it take off.
What have you planted before? You doing any supplemental feeding close by try and take some pressure off it? A wheat,oat, rye mix with some sort of brassica and clover should do the trick.ake sure your soil is right so it comes in full and thick. About a month after you plant go back and put some nitrogen on it before a rain.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 6:58 am to bbvdd
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I think you may have that mixed up with another type of vetch:
I’m not saying joint vetch is bad. I’m saying there are better options for many applications.
That is comparing joint vetch to native forages in acidic pine plantation landscapes. There is very little high quality browse in many of those areas.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 2:33 pm to Fratigerguy
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I’m not saying joint vetch is bad. I’m saying there are better options for many applications
You have a link for this study? It ranges 50% in stems and 80% in leaves from what I have been told and seen. You are wasting your time with soybeans unless you have at least 50 acres and they better be in 10 acre blocks or bigger.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 3:00 pm to Fratigerguy
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Alyce clover. Grows much like vetch, slightly lower in protein, but far, far higher digestibility % and the best browse tolerant plant we grew.
Interesting. QDMA always pushed vetch and alyce clover together. We only grew it once because it was hard to find. Vetch is expensive but available. Soybeans are impossible to grow because are fields are too small.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 4:12 pm to ABucks11
Woo Hoo! I've been downgraded to "Moderate Drought"!
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 1/11/24 at 4:29 pm to Red Stick Rambler
You still waiting and watching to plant?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:01 pm to Jack Daniel
Still extreme bordering on exceptional here.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:19 pm to bbvdd
“We’re on to turkey season…”
Posted on 1/11/24 at 9:26 pm to Jack Daniel
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You still waiting and watching to plant?
Burn planning now.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 7:27 am to ABucks11
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Burn planning now.
Uh, I might skip burning this year bud. Unless you get 20 inches of rain in the next few months
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:52 pm to lsushelly
Holy moly it’s amazing what some water will do.
Planted this in late November. Green Cover Seed Fall Pressure Release. I had given up on it and covered with some rye just to have SOMETHING. Now look at it
Planted this in late November. Green Cover Seed Fall Pressure Release. I had given up on it and covered with some rye just to have SOMETHING. Now look at it
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 8:55 pm
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