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Help Plan My Future

Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:20 am
I own a biz (100%) along the gulf coast I am selling for a decent size. After taxes and debt, I can pay off all personal debt (mortgage, cc, student loans, etc) and be left with roughly $1mil. Paying off home is a must, as I do not want to continue paying $10k/yr for insurance. Non-wind will save us $9k/yr.

I am also part owner of two other businesses (20% and 50%), where I am not involved in day to day operations.

I am 39 yrs old, wife (who recently quit teaching to help out with biz-wasn't planning on selling), a 4 yr old, and planning for another child.

My parents and in-laws moved from out of state years ago to be closer to us/grandchild, beaches, etc.

Our options are (as I see them):

1. Stay here. Buy 2 long term rentals ($250k each/should net $3500/month). Invest $500k in CD ($2k/month). Other businesses should net $4k/month, minimum. Wife work part time job bringing in $2k/month. Health insurance, as well as other insurances, are roughly $2k/month. Bills (utility/cell/electric) run $750/month. Gives us roughly $8,750/month, which we could live off off comfortably for the time being. We would also have $1mil in assets (homes) free and clear.

2. Move to somewhere in the South. The four criteria I/we have is:
a. No hurricanes
b. conservative
c. 4 seasons
d. good labor market

We have identified Knoxville, TN of all places. There, I can open a similar business to what I have now. We would sell the home, giving us roughly $1.7 mil to start over again up there. We would most likely buy a short term rental back here along the coast for visiting. We would have roughly $250k left over after purchasing the home in Knoxville and the short term rental here. We would obv have to relocate our parents, who are on board (wife is hesitant). I would still have the two businesses, but would only own roughly 20% of each, but even at that, we would expect $3k/month. In 10 years (when I'm 50), I will be able to sell the new biz again for a couple million, and officially retire.

I am leaning more to option B, but I figure I'd put this out here for the gurus on this board to critique. I have spoken to my banker, my accountant, and several financial advisors as well, and it boils down to everyone has a diff opinion, but none of these options suck. Long term care for my parents/in-laws is one of the driving factors in my desire to relocate, as well as my knowledge in my industry will allow easy success. Also, more educational opportunities in Knoxville for a family rather than the beach.
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2788 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:59 am to
You’re planning on having your wife and mother of young kids work for $2k a month while you do what exactly?

Congrats on the sale btw.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 11:01 am
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
2001 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:19 am to
Don't hold out on us...

What was the business?

ETA: Also, Can I hold $100??
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 11:20 am
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:23 am to
quote:

You’re planning on having your wife and mother of young kids work for $2k a month while you do what exactly?


Planning on working in other businesses/maybe help with my TD's favorite oyster farm, Navy Cove Oysters. Might sell seafood. Might bartend.

Whatever I do, I will NOT be on call 24/7/365 like I am with insurance at the present moment.

I left this out, but we will be publishing children's book(s) we wrote when we were young and broke, 7 years ago, that we could not afford to pay to have illustrated.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 11:25 am
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2788 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:30 am to
I would try to do something to keep her from having to bring in the $2k a month unless she’s really wanting to work.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:33 am to
quote:

would try to do something to keep her from having to bring in the $2k a month unless she’s really wanting to work.


She does.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19062 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:50 pm to
These places exist?
quote:

Move to somewhere in the South. The four criteria I/we have is:
c. 4 seasons


But seriously, the 2 major questions I see from what you provided is what does your non-compete say about starting up a new business? Even in a new city?

And, you mentioned starting a similar company in your new city, but not if you stay. I'd imagine your sale agreement would preclude you from competing against your current company for ~2 years in your current location. Does that mean you'd work more in 1 of the companies you have a partnership share?

Edited to ask: Also, why is our wife hesitant in a move? Does she not want to leave the area, not fond of Knoxville? Depending on the reason for this, it may eliminate option 2 from the table
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 12:52 pm
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1820 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Paying off home is a must, as I do not want to continue paying $10k/yr for insurance. Non-wind will save us $9k/yr.


Where on the coast, that seems like a dangerous proposition.....
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3179 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Whatever I do, I will NOT be on call 24/7/365 like I am with insurance at the present moment.


Are you Jake, from State Farm?
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3669 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:49 pm to
I live on the Gulf Coast in Florida and my insurance is nowhere near that. If you build new construction there is a huge wind mitigation. What state were/are you in?
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:31 pm to
My home is roughly 1 mile north of the gulf, in Gulf Shores. It was built in 1965, and is masonry (concrete) with shutters on all windows and a new roof. Nothing short of a Cat 4 will damage the home, and even then, it'll take some doing.

FL insurance is actually cheaper than AL insurance, as there are many more carriers in FL than lower AL.
Posted by Texas Tea 123
Member since Sep 2017
250 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:33 pm to
My advice would be to not ask for life-changing advice on Tiger Droppings. Not trying to be funny.
This post was edited on 9/26/23 at 3:34 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10079 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:40 pm to
State Farm agents are the richest dudes I hang with. One filed taxes on 2-3 million in 2022, and I think he's the smallest baller of that group.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

State Farm agents are the richest dudes I hang with. One filed taxes on 2-3 million in 2022, and I think he's the smallest baller of that group.



Fun fact: State Farm agents do not own their business, and they cannot sell them.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10079 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 4:40 pm to
I know, but cash flow solves a lot of life's problems!
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Weekend Warrior79


quote:

2 major questions I see from what you provided is what does your non-compete say about starting up a new business? Even in a new city?



I actually don't have a noncompete, but this is a local friend who is purchasing my business. I did tell him about my plan (years ago, I bought the domain names "moderntnins.com", "modernokins.com" and "modernarins.com" in order to open up locations in those states), and he gave me his blessing.
If I were to work in the current industry, it would not be in a hurricane area (insurance really, really sucks right now along the gulf coast).

quote:

Also, why is our wife hesitant in a move?


She "really likes her friends" and "we are settled and established here". In my book, strangers are friends waiting to happen, and I have moved like 4 times since graduating LSU in 08. My wife also likes income, and income would grow tremendously in Knoxville.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
1232 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

Help Plan My Future
quote:

BamaCoaster

Sell everything, move to a small house Alabama, retire early, and coast the rest of your life.
Posted by CharlesUFarley
Daphne, AL
Member since Jan 2022
733 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 8:17 pm to
I think you should figure out what your wife wants to do and do that. Otherwise, you will probably be working with assets that are about 20% or less of what you stated in the near future.

Is she a beach person? That will never go away.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6222 posts
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

think you should figure out what your wife wants to do and do that. Otherwise, you will probably be working with assets that are about 20% or less of what you stated in the near future. Is she a beach person? That will never go away.


Good points. She’s from Cali (LA/SD). She’s been around water all her life.
Posted by DanMitchell
Member since Sep 2023
5 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 3:37 am to
I totally agree. I have the same mindset. Anyway, the OP uses the word "maybe" a lot. That means he doesn't have a plan and that's bad. The OP should first decide for himself what he wants to do because in every industry there are a thousand examples of how someone succeeded and made a business. The question is whether you want to do it in the near future or make it your life's work...
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