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Students are entering college unable to write

Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:21 am
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
3821 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:21 am
ANALYSIS: Students are entering college unable to write

Several universities offer writing courses meant to prepare college students for college-level writing.

Businesses are also shelling out billions to offer employees remedial writing classes.




K-12 public education has failed to prepare incoming college students how to write at the public level.

In a desperate attempt to catch high school graduates up to speed, many universities are providing remedial writing classes to college students.

About 68% of those starting at two-year public institutions and 40% of students enrolled in public four-year universities took at least one remedial writing class between 2003 to 2009, according to an original report from the Department of Education.

Average math and reading test scores dropped significantly from 2019 to 2021, according to a 2022 study by two Northwest Evaluation Association (NWEA). It seems likely that the 2016 figures would be much worse if they were resampled in 2023, after the COVID-19 pandemic.

Dr. Megan Kuhfeld, one of three NWEA study researchers, told Campus Reform Aug. 30 that “It seems likely but with two caveats: (a) the students in our study have not reached college yet so it is hard to extrapolate from middle school test results and (b) colleges may have changed their criteria for routing students into remedial courses as a results of the pandemic, which would also change the proportion.”

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Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27217 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:22 am to
But they can name all of the 153 genders though.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
93867 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:24 am to
This is triggering to those of us who can't read.

This is what happens when our schools get poisoned.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62660 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:27 am to
Have you seen the poor excuses for writing contained in a lot of posts on this board?
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:29 am to
Thank the Reagan-Carter devised Department of Education...

Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt - the deliberate dumbing down of America documents this massive mistake - she was there as an undersecretary level position under Reagan resisting this disaster/intentional damage of the USA

The sooner this becomes recognized the sooner this damage can be repaired
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116974 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:30 am to
One problem is the method of teaching basic reading in 1st grade.
Before 1970 it was always phonetics. Then it turned to 'whole word.' Phonetics produced kids who could read much faster and comprehend better.
Most private schools realized this in the 80s and stuck with phonetics. Most public schools still use whole word.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108421 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:37 am to
Ask them about Global Warming and they will be able to tell you the same lies that the left have been doing for decades now.
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
5617 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:38 am to
Public education is just globalist satanic brainwashing. If you can’t afford private education, don’t have a kid. Pretty simple.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
9395 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:39 am to
How can they learn to write English if they only speak Spanish and Ebonics?
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9282 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 10:47 am to
I am sorry but this is nothing new. writing classes have been offered for decades as a pre req.


also please go look at any text/fb post from anyone over 60...They are incredibly hard to read. Lets not glorify past generations and act like the whole generation could write at a high level.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54600 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:14 am to
Reading, writing and arithmetic are not a requirement to be a college indoctrinated mouthpiece for Fundamental Transformation……just pay for my college loans and I will push the cultural Marxist propaganda.
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8546 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Students are entering college unable to write


"The world needs ditch diggers too"
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 11:16 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
54600 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:19 am to
quote:

also please go look at any text/fb post from anyone over 60...They are incredibly hard to read. Lets not glorify past generations and act like the whole generation could write at a high level.


I’m 64, what I’ve found over the years is I’ve gotten lazy. I frequently fail to use proper English. My handwriting is a shell of what is was when I was in high school and later college….lol
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46792 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:20 am to
when standards get lowered to equalize outcomes, rather than opportunities, you get a society that rapidly declines in every meaningful way.
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
38415 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:31 am to
I worked with a new guy a couple of years ago, when I wrote out something in cursive (script) he could not read it.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23027 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:37 am to
Tell me about it! Schools don't emphasize writing skills, grammar, or correct spelling. I routinely see high school students who cannot write a complete sentence with correct punctuation.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41799 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:37 am to
They can't write like with a pen or pencil? That's not surprising since everything is typed out these days. I don't have much reason to write other than occasionally signing my name.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Students are entering college unable to write

Or do basic Algebra. Can't remember the college, but there was a report that said they are needing to create math courses to help their new students.

We really need colleges that drop the DEI crap and go after the best, and let us know that is what they are doing. They will be a part of the future of the new "Ivy League" since the current ones are being stupid.

ETA - Here's an article about it from the Seattle Times

Blame is the pandemic. Which I can see has fault, but of course doing what it takes to repair the issue is not "PC" enough I'm sure.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 11:58 am
Posted by tigerfan 64
in the LP
Member since Sep 2016
6259 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:47 am to
quote:

also please go look at any text/fb post from anyone over 60

I would put CB58's writing skills up against any on this board.
This post was edited on 9/11/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38989 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:55 am to
Give it another 5 years and those Quantum Computers will figure out the mechanism of Bio-AI interface and an ‘education’ will take no longer than the time required to download. These moral/practical conundrums will be moot issues as we move on to the bigger stuff. Like what/who we become in the coming “fundamental transformation “. Strap in. Get Jesus if an “open proposition “/option.
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