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re: the median american couple retiring in 2033 can expect a $17,400 annual cut in ss payments

Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:42 am to
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:42 am to
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I have 3 more years and will start collecting and get what I can before it's gone


At what age? Huge difference between starting 62 or starting at 70.
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1288 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:42 am to
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If Congress would have sucked it up and implemented a series of small changes starting in the 80s, this wouldn't have been as big an issue.


Kinda like that balanced budget law in the 90's that was going to pass until that one cksucking Congressman flipped his vote at the last minute.
Many to blame, but think how different things would be but for that one a$$hole.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64843 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:44 am to
Few things in life piss me off more than Social Security. When I think of all the money they’ve cut from every paycheck I’ve drawn over the past 35 years, and how much that money would have grown if I could have invested it instead of sending it to the government to fund their gargantuan Ponzi scheme, it makes me sick.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53143 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:45 am to
Sorry you won’t be getting your boomer welfare baw

Gonna mean less trips to the Cracker Barrel
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48331 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:49 am to
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ETA: SS will not run out of money, they’ll just keep raising the age of eligibility until more people die before ever collecting a dime, no problem.


To be fair, that’s how I was when SS started
Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1288 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:49 am to
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At what age? Huge difference between starting 62 or starting at 70.


Every situation is different, but my financial guys figured out that the breakeven is 87 years old. i.e. I'd have to live past 87 to come out ahead by delaying for the higher benefits.
It just comes down to how long you WANT to work and what other savings & obligations you have.

I do wonder if you'd be better off "getting in early" and getting something just in case it crashes or gets "fixed"
Posted by 200MPHCOBRA
Metairie
Member since Nov 2016
426 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:51 am to
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But what's the backup plan for when grandpa needs an operation and there's no money to pay for it?


He dies.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12702 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:54 am to
I’m sorry. But I was told all of these beautiful, hard working, gritty, and patriotic illegals were going to save social security. And for that we should be grateful. Oh yea… and we would also starve without them.

What happened to that?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42051 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:55 am to
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Yeah, the irresponsible people that didn’t save money will be the ones that collect SS.


I mean, it's YOUR $ as much as the next guy.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23231 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:57 am to
The amount of money we gave to Ukrainian could fund SS for 10 years. Our corrupt gov has jumped the shark and their answer is to further the bleed the people.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64843 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:57 am to
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Sorry you won’t be getting your boomer welfare baw


Save your regrets. I’ll do just fine in retirement without SS. Also, if I was a boomer, I’d have been working age a lot longer than 35 years.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40240 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:25 am to
One last frick you from the Boomers to Millennials
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:36 am to
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The amount of money we gave to Ukrainian could fund SS for 10 years. Our corrupt gov has jumped the shark and their answer is to further the bleed the people.


nah, let’s blame Boomers because we as Millenials are too ignorant to invest in a 401k.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9709 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:42 am to
2033 is around when I planned to retire.

This is the story of my life. Generally probably the story of most Gen X folks. We're always showing up after the party is over. Listening to older folks talking about the good ole days.

We'll be fine. We have pensions and 401ks. But it galls my arse to pay as much as I do in taxes for a 35/40 years to be "gifted" with this at the end of it.

GOVERNMENT SUCKS. This is the outcome of all government programs. Incompetence. No incentive to succeed/manage costs (no competitors). Steady revenue stream, at gunpoint.

Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9709 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:43 am to
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One last frick you from the Boomers to Millennials


Reminder, the 2023 SS COLA was 8.7 percent.

In the face of insolvency.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5967 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:52 am to
So you're 50-55 years old, in the most influential stage of your life. Why don't you work with the system to make the improvements that will benefit your future
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
1816 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:13 am to
I am 73, retired, and living well on SS. Between my wife and I, we get $41,000 a year. The key to living well on SS is to not have any mortgage, car note or any debt of any kind. We use our credit card to pay for everything. We pay the balance off 100% every month so as to enjoy approximately $1,000 a year in rewards from Costco and Citi card.

So how do you fix SS and Medicaire? There are those who say let me invest that money and avoid this government ponzi scheme. That is bullshite. Those alleged payments that you would take to invest would be siphoned off for so many sturpid things over the years. The only way to avoid that is forced contributions.

As to those who advocate waiting until 71 or so to claim in order to get more money, what makes you thing you are going to live that long? Enjoy the money while you can.

Want to add more money? Very simple, remove the ceiling on payroll deductions so that every $ earned through work is charged the current 7.65% up to a top level earning threshold of $400k.

Want to increase your wealth for retirement? Take advantage of any 401K and contribute the maximum to get the maximum match. Got extra money at the end of the month? Pay off debt or start your own IRA in addition to your 401K. Take that $5.00 you spend daily for a fancy cup of coffee along with the $10 to $20 you use for daily lunch and deposit that in your IRA. When you leave that company, bring your 401K with you to someone like E Trade. You will have a minimum required distribution of 10% when you hit 73.

Ok venting is done, now it is time for a wonderful thing you get to do after retirement, a nice lunch and then take a nap.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85146 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:18 am to
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wonder what those numbers would look like with those 100’s of billions that were sent to Ukraine injected into the SS fund?


The amount of money sent to Ukraine would hardly pay for 1 month of SS payments in this country.
Posted by BThibodeaux
Member since Jun 2005
116 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:21 am to
Social Security will always exist because the demographics of those that benefit vote at a higher percentage than younger generations. Re-election is top priority of most members of Congress.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85146 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:27 am to
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The amount of money we gave to Ukrainian could fund SS for 10 years. Our corrupt gov has jumped the shark and their answer is to further the bleed the people.


where the frick do you people get these numbers.

The cost for SS is absolutely insane. The Ukrainian aid is wasteful, but it’s a pimple on the arse of entitlement spending in this country.
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