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re: How in the world is McKinley not a 5*

Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:38 am to
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:38 am to
Yeah it’s not a problem or any hard feelings, just something to take into account.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14948 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:39 am to
He's a 5* but one of the many things these recruiting sites do that doesn't make a lick of sense is they wait to hand out all the 5* ratings until a certain point of the year.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 2:03 pm to
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Jefferson was a very late bloomer. By the time he had matured physically, he wasn’t going to be eligible to play division 1 college football, so he was an after thought for the recruiting sites. There’s a reason he signed with LSU in like August.


Jefferson was a higher talented player than his star rating. He was downgraded because he was an academic non-qualifier. He got eligible over the summer and signed with LSU the day before Fall camp opened. This story has been told many times including by JJ himself. I do not know if his talent would have carried him to 3* or 4* though.
Posted by IMJ127
Death Valley
Member since Jul 2011
3340 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 2:20 pm to
Sounds like Dare Rosenthal
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14948 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 2:22 pm to
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Jefferson was a higher talented player than his star rating. He was downgraded because he was an academic non-qualifier. He got eligible over the summer and signed with LSU the day before Fall camp opened. This story has been told many times including by JJ himself. I do not know if his talent would have carried him to 3* or 4* though.


Shea Dixon has gone on record saying he thinks Jefferson would have been a 4* I believe
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5381 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 4:08 pm to
Well if he commits to US, his 4* status is set in stone
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5581 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 5:23 pm to
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Arik Gilbert: 5* TE that was the number 10 overall player in the country. He's now on his 3rd college.

Justin Jefferson: 2*. The best receiver in the NFL.

I'm not saying recruiting sites have no idea what they're doing. But inaccurate assessments happen all the time.
Both of these are terrible examples of recruiting sites having "no idea what they're doing."
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Arik Gilbert

Arik Gilbert was the Gatorade Football Player of the Year, and he was the first tight end to do that. He is huge, strong, and speedy. Listen to the interviews of LSU players who played with him here: fast, freaky, shifty, Megatron. He had a terrific true freshman year at LSU. Compare Gilbert with Mason Taylor last year and Thad Moss in 2019.

Gilbert: 35 receptions for 368 yards and 2 TDs in . 8 games in 2020
Taylor:. 38 receptions for 414 yards and 3 TDs in 14 games in 2022
Moss:.. 47 receptions for 570 yards and 4 TDs in 14 games in 2019.

His stats are comparable, and he played in 57% of the games of Taylor and Moss. There's no question Arik Gilbert fell apart later, but he was absolutely an elite prospect. He was truly a 5* recruit.


Justin Jefferson

First, Justin Jefferson was a consensus 3* recruit, not a 2* recruit. Second, this post is a fairly accurate description of his recruitment:
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Jefferson was a higher talented player than his star rating. He was downgraded because he was an academic non-qualifier. He got eligible over the summer and signed with LSU the day before Fall camp opened. This story has been told many times including by JJ himself.
Jefferson had four offers: LSU, Tulane, Northwestern, and Nicholls State. It was NOT because he committed early and no one offered after that. It's because it looked like he would not be able to play Division I football.

Jefferson did not commit to LSU until August 8, 2017. That's not August of his senior year in high school; that's August of his freshman year at LSU. He enrolled at LSU on August 9, 2017, the very next day. He was a very late qualifier.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/28/23 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32805 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:14 pm to
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He is on 247. His composite ranking is a 4* though.


Because recruiting services like ESPN are spectacularly lazy in evaluating talent--particularly talent from smaller markets like Louisiana (unless your last name is Manning). And for some reason, ESPN's ratings are factored into the composite algorithm, which always drags down Louisiana guys' composite scores.

Oh well. We know what we have.
Posted by blkssr
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2009
294 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:35 pm to
If Mckinley would commit to Ala or Georgia, he would be a Plus 5 star and probably a top 25 recruit.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39712 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 6:56 am to
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I would imagine a lot of it is based on competition. 6A schools in Texas hardly ever play a 5A school. We just don't have enough big schools were they only play 5A teams. I think that is why there is some bias when it comes to the ratings.

That probably contributes, but the biggest factor, imo, is that the rating services are selling entertainment not accurate information. If they accurately rated all the deep south athletes higher then no one from the big markets in the NE, the midwest, or the west coast would pay for the information.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9558 posts
Posted on 7/29/23 at 7:35 am to
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Justin Jefferson: 2*. The best receiver in the NFL.


Yeah but weren’t there extenuating circumstances regarding this though?
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