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re: New head to head poll: Trump 54 | DeSantis 46

Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by tivey6301
Member since Jul 2011
2001 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:37 pm to
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Most people are idiots.
Hopefully you are including yourself in this list of idiots.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18006 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:40 pm to
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It's so similar in nature to the lack of respect the GOPe has for its constituency.

What exactly has you feeling disrespected? I think the establishment is doing pretty well by you. It even has you convinced you're not "establishment" so you don't have to beat yourself up about it.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9940 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 2:52 pm to
You do realize these are fake polls meant to select who their desired opponent for the Democratic nominee will be. Apparently they wanted Trump, but take heart, now they want Desantis because they can smell his inability to win. You are so easily played.

I was in the PR game. We called these push polls meant to drive the narrative and not reflect actual opinions. There are real polls too, but you won't ever see them. They are only seen by the candidates and their staff and are meant to direct the campaigns. They are very expensive. These are never published and the results are often embellished within political circles.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 5:14 pm to
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quote: His progress is he is working the ground game and building bridges in the early states, especially Iowa. People forget that Trump was up by 11 points in the last Iowa poll prior to getting crushed by Cruz and DeSantis has a much more organized and better funded organization than Cruz. It's a Caucus state. DeSantis understands that if he wins Iowa everything changes. Trump isn't inevitable and he has to fight against a guy that has far more money and far better organization than he does. He can't just rely on inevitability. Trump may still win for sure but it's going to be a dogfight. The "others" will also be pressured to drop out pretty quickly and they won't have any money except Vivek who is just a Trump surrogate. Of course on the flip side if Ron loses Iowa bigly he's done. These national polls are great for banter but they have little to do with the bigger picture outside of how they might impact the folks in Iowa and NH. This race is Obama vs Hillary in terms of how it sets up and DeSantis is literally following Obama's plan and Trump looks eerily similar to Hillary in '07/8. Obama was down 30 into December, then he surprised in Iowa and suddenly it was a race. Of course there are things about this race that are different than that one as well but it is definitely the most similar from a political science perspective. I understand you have to have hope, but you're making yourself feel better at the moment. They just cut 33% of their staff because they overspent. RDS campaign firings quote: The expanded cuts are the latest sign that the Florida governor’s team is pivoting to a slim-down operation amid concerns over their finances. The campaign announced it had raised $20 million during the second quarter of this year. But it had spent a good chunk of that money. Much of the sum it raised, moreover, came from donors who had given the maximum amount and could not give again. Which leads me to my next point...Trump gets 82% of donations from small donors - IE he's a populist that has vast support from small donors. You may not think this is a good thing, but in fact it is. It means his support is broad and will LAST throughout the primary and GE because the max donation limit will not be reach by 82% of his support for quite a while. Meanwhile, Ron has less small donor support than Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, and even Will Hurd??? who? MOST of Ron's donors have MAXXED out their support, and cannot re-up. It also shows he's the establishment's candidate..which is hurting his populism as well. The bottom line is, while he's an impressive governer, governor popularity in their own state doesn't translate to popularity in a GE historically. It's a toss up, and in this case..people just don't like the guy.


Lol.

If you have followed campaigns like this for any time you would know this is normal. Trump went through 5 campaign managers in '16. DeSantis has done shakeups multiple times in every campaign. They are constantly re-assessing and shifting strategy.

All that graph shows is Trump isn't getting the big money donors he got in '16 and '20. It's not that he doesn't want them he just can't get them as they have left him. DeSantis also has 6000 more unique donors than Trump and has both large and small. Obviously one large donor makes up for many small ones. This is not a positive for Trump, it just means he is short on money.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
11435 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 5:53 pm to
frick off
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
2819 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 7:44 pm to
Do you blow through a tube to move your wheelchair?
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19855 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 7:54 pm to
Fake news. Keep dreaming!!!
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10151 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 8:11 pm to
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DeSantis has best net favorability among all GOP candidates.

That’s in the real world, not your imaginary one.

And only 3 points more with independents...that's not going to be "allowed" to be enough to win the electoral college.

Hate to tell it to you...we are screwed regardless.
Posted by philter
Member since Dec 2004
8966 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 7:37 pm to
*trips over this bump
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56689 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:41 pm to
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They know it will only get worse for them the more voters are exposed to DeSantis and the more Trump runs his mouth.



This guy didn't have a great grasp of which way the wind was blowing.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34367 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:44 pm to
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-DeSantis has best net favorability of GOP candidates


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This is what keeps Team Trump up at night.


You guaranteed that Ron was going to win Iowa.

You said that you would ban yourself.

Why are you posting
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73083 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:25 pm to
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You guaranteed that Ron was going to win Iowa.

You said that you would ban yourself.

Why are you posting


because like most ronbots that have polluted the board with spam threads the last 8 months they were always talking out their asses.



they have no morals or manhood or honor to adhere to the bet and self ban. soy boy cuck pussies.

Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73083 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:27 pm to
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Jon Ham


have you no shame clown? stay on DU where you belong cuck.

you have been destroyed here.

Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:10 am to
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All that graph shows is Trump isn't getting the big money donors he got in '16 and '20. It's not that he doesn't want them he just can't get them as they have left him. DeSantis also has 6000 more unique donors than Trump and has both large and small. Obviously one large donor makes up for many small ones. This is not a positive for Trump, it just means he is short on money.


So short on money he absolutely destroyed DeSantis in Iowa.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:14 am to
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Score is 0-0 bro. We got almost 6 months to go before a single vote is cast.


Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29178 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:17 am to
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Jon Ham


Has eaten the largest shite burger in the history of the PT board.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:25 am to
Jon Ham was never a DeSantis supporter. He is 100% Joe Biden.

He ran a psy op on PT with the help of pro trans rmnldr. Bots being bots believed them. This thread shows how deranged they were. Disgraced Buckeye is full of anger and rage while eating mom’s spaghetti and posting in his 2 sizes too small Kaisich 16 shirt.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 12:41 am to
Well, the obvious problem was that the race was never going to be H2H between Trump and Rob! So polls like that are just pablum

We saw the actual poll in Iowa. No H2H, and Trump got more votes than all the others combined
Posted by iHEARTcorndogs
Island of Misfit Corndogs
Member since Oct 2023
1034 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:04 am to
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All you have to do is monitor Trump and the cult’s behavior to know this race is much closer than they want to pretend it is.


Posted by iHEARTcorndogs
Island of Misfit Corndogs
Member since Oct 2023
1034 posts
Posted on 1/21/24 at 1:08 am to
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Jon Ham


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