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re: Former Players, Staff Reveal Troubling Allegations of Toxic Culture Under P.J. Fleck

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Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 2:00 pm to
Row the boat bitch
Posted by Gaggle
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Toxic Culture
Like they were growing E.Coli or something?
Posted by High C
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Former Players, Staff Reveal Troubling Allegations of Toxic Culture Under P.J. Fleck


The only thing that’s troubling is that these are “allegations.”
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:22 pm to
And Urban led not one but two programs to national championships. The times they are a-changin'
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 3:22 pm to
You might see some criticism on the two bullets about player weight and rushing players back from injury due to pressure from Fleck, but most of the article just highlights how frickin' weird and narcissistic PJ Fleck is - his silly gimmicks work at Minnesota, and will attract three-star players with lesser offers, but most four- and five-stars aren't trying to waste their time with standing ovations, sprinting the sidelines during a game, and answering in acronyms
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Akit1
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 4:02 pm to
What’s the conversion rate of PJ Fleck bank notes to Schrute bucks?
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 5:26 pm to
I can’t believe I wasted my time reading that shite. Fleck is kind of a goober and I think the acronyms are corny, but what is he doing wrong?

What team or organization on the planet doesn’t have a handful of disgruntled players/employees who talk bad about the boss behind their backs?

The players complaining were probably low character guys. This gives me Texas Tech and Adam James vibes.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:20 pm to
I don't get having to give him a standing ovation when he enters a room and have to practice standing ovations. That's like North Korean type stuff when the Kim Jung-un enters the room. His slogans and the acronyms are silly.
Posted by AkronTiger
Rubber City
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 7:22 pm to
nothing article imo
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:55 pm to
My God!!! These people are pussies!!!

Other than community outreach, this was standard stuff


In High School!!!!
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:26 pm to
That clapping anytime fleck entered the room is weird. He has some other odd things going on but they seem to team building to me. I like the drug thing. Ok you test hot but you’re doing most program things right, we aren’t going to throw you away. You will chances to get it right as long as you stay on the path, I like that. My big take on this is Fleck is a weird dude, newsflash we already knew this.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 10:38 pm to

Two other players who were holdovers from the prior regime told FOS that indoctrination started right after Fleck was hired as head coach in January 2017.

Dan Nichol, Minnesota’s head football strength and conditioning coach who followed Fleck over from Western Michigan and interned at Iowa under disgraced strength coach Chris Doyle, gathered the team together after Fleck was hired, one of the former players said. The instruction was simple: Clap whenever Fleck entered the locker room.

“We had to practice giving Fleck ovations multiple times — the first time, because some other people in the back were not moving as quick as he wanted,” a third player told FOS.

Two other former players said that Fleck would reenter a room if he didn’t like the ovation he received.

After that first team meeting in 2017, players received a three-ring binder they were required to memorize and on which they were tested. FOS obtained several pages of the binder used by Fleck during his time at Minnesota.

The third player said that one acronym stood out: F.A.M.I.L.Y., short for “Forget About Me, I Love You.”

“He was making us say, forget about yourself as an individual,” the player said. “I was baffled because it’s not anything logical. If you forget about yourself, then who are you?”

Added a fourth player: “It’s based around Fleck’s ego. You have to talk a certain way. You have to be a certain way. … Within that building of the University of Minnesota, it’s very much like brainwashing.”

The pages obtained by FOS include nomenclature common to sports with inspirational quotes, and most are pretty self-explanatory.

“The Pain of Discipline VS. The Pain of Regret”
“Your how Creates Your who”
“If You’re Juiceless, You’re Useless If You’re Juiceful, You’re Useful”
“Roof Over Your Head – Better Off Than 73% of The World”
But some of the nearly 20 acronyms players were tested on were more abstract.

H.Y.P.R.R. — How/Yours/Process/Result/Response
T.H.I.N.K. — Truthful, Helpful, Inspirational, Necessary, Kind
F.I.S.T. — Family Invested Same Time “Keep it Tight”
S.F./A.M./F.S. — Start Fast, Accelerate Middle, Finish Strong

There was only one acceptable answer when Fleck and other staff members asked, “How are you doing?”

“I’m elite.”



Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37851 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 11:07 pm to
So he’s cringy, kind of a douche, and gives off Joel Osteen vibes?

Didn’t we know this already?
Posted by Bernie Bierman
Member since Mar 2019
1385 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 3:03 pm to
Pack it up gopher bros. It’s back to complete irrelevancy for us.

Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/27/23 at 4:02 pm to
I don't know if any of this is true or not, but I've never liked Fleck. Always thought he was phony with all his corny "Row the Boat" bs. He was the hot young name in coaching 8 or so years ago. There's a reason he went to Minnesota and not a bigger name, and that he's still there and hasn't moved on to a bigger program. Phony.
Posted by northLAgoomba
Grand Cane, LA
Member since Nov 2009
3857 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 4:42 pm to
How much more pussified are we going to get in this country? I have serious doubts as to whether tackle football will still be around in 20 years.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
12696 posts
Posted on 7/27/23 at 9:30 pm to
These kids are the generation we are hoping save our country from eating itself. We are fricked.
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