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Physical Gold
Posted on 7/26/23 at 11:33 am
Posted on 7/26/23 at 11:33 am
I hear commercials for physical gold all the time and have never given it any serious consideration. However with the threat of possibly going to a cashless economy with digital currency I am wondering if now is the time to put some money in this. Anybody buying physical gold? What might I need to know before deciding?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 11:34 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
Always bite the coin. I've seen em do that in movies, and it seems to be the trick of telling if it's real.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 11:45 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
Don't buy from Apmex. Check spot price and anything over that is considered the premium. Always try to pay as little premium as possible.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 12:34 pm to BatonRougeBuckeye
I just don’t understand why buy gold. The returns have been terrible for the last 50 years
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:31 pm to CougarBait
You buy gold for a hedge against a major black swan event. Not as an investment
Posted on 7/26/23 at 1:34 pm to CougarBait
I have been tempted to buy many times, but just can’t. I just can’t imagine a situation where I would use it in actual commerce, and the liability of actually having it. Instead, I just buy bullets, cause if it gets that bad, at least I’ll have bullets..
Posted on 7/26/23 at 2:15 pm to BatonRougeBuckeye
quote:Although I don't believe we're going to a cashless society anytime soon, how is using a digital currency such a "threat" that you want to buy gold to feel safer about it?
with the threat of possibly going to a cashless economy with digital currency
How often does the average person these days actually use cash rather than paying bills and buying goods and services via electronic transfer, a check or debit/credit cards?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 2:49 pm to jimjackandjose
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You buy gold for a hedge against a major black swan event. Not as an investment
like an inflatable raft if you live 500 miles inland.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 2:59 pm to LSURussian
JMO, physical gold offers three advantages that I think a lot of folks like.
Gold is the only insurance against the failure or default of Fiat currency.
Gold , precious metals, …can be easily transferred as part of a generational wealth plan. It is good, long term planning.
Gold provides a relatively stable moving average (which is why it is often used a a base for many statistical ratios) In other words, a little more predictable when equities are volatile
That said, …. don’t buy physical metals off a tv commercial. Go through a large, reputable dealer . Check “compare gold prices.com” for good dealers ….. Kitco Metals, Provident, Apmex, BGASC are all pretty good. Pick a couple, subscribe to their mailing lists, and wait for announced sales. I cannot say this enough …. dollar cost average on the dips. Don’t fall in love with “ my precious” …. goal should be the lowest DCA you can manage.
Government minted coins and bars are the easiest to liquidate, naturally. They also carry the highest premiums ( the amount raked by the dealer/middleman), while generic bars and rounds carry the lowest and are tougher to liquidate.
During the market crash in March 2020 (covid crash) …. you could buy US government minted silver coins (pre-64’ ,90% silver for 11 times face value) …. so 4 silver quarters , shipped for about $11.20, including the premiums.
Contrast that today …. the same 4 US quarters would cost $27.73 from the same dealer , including premium.
Gold is the only insurance against the failure or default of Fiat currency.
Gold , precious metals, …can be easily transferred as part of a generational wealth plan. It is good, long term planning.
Gold provides a relatively stable moving average (which is why it is often used a a base for many statistical ratios) In other words, a little more predictable when equities are volatile
That said, …. don’t buy physical metals off a tv commercial. Go through a large, reputable dealer . Check “compare gold prices.com” for good dealers ….. Kitco Metals, Provident, Apmex, BGASC are all pretty good. Pick a couple, subscribe to their mailing lists, and wait for announced sales. I cannot say this enough …. dollar cost average on the dips. Don’t fall in love with “ my precious” …. goal should be the lowest DCA you can manage.
Government minted coins and bars are the easiest to liquidate, naturally. They also carry the highest premiums ( the amount raked by the dealer/middleman), while generic bars and rounds carry the lowest and are tougher to liquidate.
During the market crash in March 2020 (covid crash) …. you could buy US government minted silver coins (pre-64’ ,90% silver for 11 times face value) …. so 4 silver quarters , shipped for about $11.20, including the premiums.
Contrast that today …. the same 4 US quarters would cost $27.73 from the same dealer , including premium.
This post was edited on 7/26/23 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 7/26/23 at 9:33 pm to jimjackandjose
people will be bartering anyway using goods. not using heaps of gold. hey here is a brick of gold can i get some change and break it down
your best bet is guns, ammo, food, water, fuel, and meds if a SHTF moment occurs.
your best bet is guns, ammo, food, water, fuel, and meds if a SHTF moment occurs.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 6:46 am to Fat Bastard
I always get the feeling that those gold ads target people that are 70+ using some fear tactic.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 7:58 am to lynxcat
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always get the feeling that those gold ads target people that are 70+ using some fear tactic.
Especially since Rosland Capital won’t even show me prices on their website.
The ones that advertise on TV arent the ones that you want to deal with.
I’d stick with APMEX or a local coin store.
Posted on 7/27/23 at 8:15 am to Fat Bastard
Yes in the immediate, however when the new currency emerges, gold will still have value
Posted on 7/27/23 at 9:21 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
Gold backed currencies cannot survived anymore. It creates its own type of inflation when the supply runs short. What is happening now is countries are repatriating their gold so countries that store it cannot hold it hostage if they think you are a bad actor. This gold isn't brought into the market so it neither hurts or helps the value. It just remains stagnate
Posted on 7/28/23 at 6:16 pm to BatonRougeBuckeye
Others have given good advice. I buy my precious metals (mostly) from SD Bullion and Monument Metals. SD Bullion has an offer where they’ll sell gold and silver at spot to new customers. In general, try to buy metals as close to the spot price as possible. The premium varies widely so shop around for the best deal.
Silver seems like it’s more of an investment now but gold is primarily a way to maintain your wealth. Silver is fun to collect (aka stack) but it adds up quick and you’ll need some way to store it. I’m not in the financial position where the volume of gold I have creates storage problems.
Silver and gold in most forms are beautiful and it’s fun to look through the collection. On YouTube, watch SalivateMetal and SilverDragons.
Silver seems like it’s more of an investment now but gold is primarily a way to maintain your wealth. Silver is fun to collect (aka stack) but it adds up quick and you’ll need some way to store it. I’m not in the financial position where the volume of gold I have creates storage problems.
Silver and gold in most forms are beautiful and it’s fun to look through the collection. On YouTube, watch SalivateMetal and SilverDragons.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:21 pm to Fat Bastard
Guns ammo booze and cigarettes. Gold/Silver will be simply taken from the weak by the strong using any combination of the things I listed.
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:59 pm to jimjackandjose
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however when the new currency emerges,
Which one is that?
Posted on 7/29/23 at 10:01 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
I've used Gold and Silver for a couple of decades now. Bought and sold it numerous times.
I work in large project management. That means that I am constantly in the process of working myself out of a job. As a result of this, I always maintain a few months' worth of salary in savings.
I usually keep this money in gold and silver form simply because I can't just get a wild hair up my arse and go buy a boat with it. Just the process of selling it makes me leave it right where it is until I need it.
I'm sure there are better ways to do this, but this system has always worked well for me.
Of course, I haven't bought any in while mainly because the current premiums are insane.
I work in large project management. That means that I am constantly in the process of working myself out of a job. As a result of this, I always maintain a few months' worth of salary in savings.
I usually keep this money in gold and silver form simply because I can't just get a wild hair up my arse and go buy a boat with it. Just the process of selling it makes me leave it right where it is until I need it.
I'm sure there are better ways to do this, but this system has always worked well for me.
Of course, I haven't bought any in while mainly because the current premiums are insane.
This post was edited on 7/29/23 at 10:06 am
Posted on 7/29/23 at 3:16 pm to BobABooey
quote:>——Coin collector
Silver seems like it’s more of an investment now but gold is primarily a way to maintain your wealth. Silver is fun to collect (aka stack) but it adds up quick and you’ll need some way to store it. I’m not in the financial position where the volume of gold I have creates storage problems.
Certified coins in their plastic holders create a storage problem too.
They do weigh much less than stacks of junk silver but they occupy a lot of space and as valuables, need to be secure.
I’ve got several safe deposit boxes
Posted on 7/29/23 at 5:31 pm to BatonRougeBuckeye
I’m reluctant to buy gold because of the great reset. You might end up with something that has zero value and can’t be converted to a new currency if the reset goes that far.
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