- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Interstellar: If Cooper was never supposed to go into space….?
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:12 am to SquatchDawg
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:12 am to SquatchDawg
The whole "unmoved mover" thing always has to be used if you go by basic understanding of space and time.
There's a teeserac involved in the movie. I think what they were going for there is that the future super beings had a far more advanced understanding that isn't worth trying to explain because humans now (us) don't understand it. Gives the writers unlimited latitude in how it plays out.
One of the few movies where a sequel could have been really cool. I like how they maintained as much accuracy as they could regarding relativity and time shifts.
There's a teeserac involved in the movie. I think what they were going for there is that the future super beings had a far more advanced understanding that isn't worth trying to explain because humans now (us) don't understand it. Gives the writers unlimited latitude in how it plays out.
One of the few movies where a sequel could have been really cool. I like how they maintained as much accuracy as they could regarding relativity and time shifts.
1
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:16 am to SquatchDawg
I’m sorry, but I don’t take the time to
analyze every detail of Nolan’s movies. I just enjoy the ride.
analyze every detail of Nolan’s movies. I just enjoy the ride.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:31 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
Time travel as a concept will always have logical fallacies and paradoxes
There’s a few different schools of thought on resolving those contradictions by scientists, I wouldn’t expect a movie director to come up with an ironclad one.
I believe one theory that Nolan likely based the story on, is that “timelines” run in a running string of tall loops and wormholes could Potentially accelerate you to the next loop, which would be an identical time line that could be now alter . That was probably a terrible explanation from what I half remember from a documentary
Basically the answer is “space magic”. I mean at the end he goes to a 5th dimension, it’s all creative license at that point yes
There was 0 amount of time travel in interstellar, whatever documentary you watched was nonsense if that was their theory.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:44 am to Artificial Intel
quote:
It’s playing on the time-space theory but with gravity you can actually access left of the Y axis (past)
How would that explain Cooper already existing in the future to send the coordinated back in time?
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:18 am to StringedInstruments
quote:
How would that explain Cooper already existing in the future to send the coordinated back in time?
brand basically explained it in the movie.
love (like gravity) isnt bound by time or space.
coop was taking advantage of the fact that time (future/past) was irrelevant in the force of love/gravity he was going to apply.
effects were occurring in 'the present', despite the actual action to cause the effect occurring in the tesseract at a later point in time.
there was no 'sending things back in time'.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:23 am to StringedInstruments
quote:
How would that explain Cooper already existing in the future to send the coordinated back in time?
The tesseract. It’s pretty much a time-space graph
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 11:26 am
Posted on 7/23/23 at 11:56 am to Artificial Intel
quote:
Has every other movie you’ve watched only been of the non-fiction genre?
( spoiler alert)
Nope, but many were way more believable.
I mean, he survives going into a wormhole that leads him behind his daughters bookcase. And then she figures out he’s sending her messages from space using a wrist watch. Then he miraculously gets rescued, and though many years have passed, he’s able to get to his aged daughter’s bedside right before her death! Come on!
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 7/23/23 at 12:40 pm to Revelator
I don't think this movie was for you. Maybe stick to dramas with a strong independent female lead?
Posted on 7/23/23 at 12:55 pm to Revelator
So no other movie you’ve watched had nothing more implausible than that? You should watch more movies. The whole fantasy genre is wildly more implausible than anything in interstellar, which is liberally based on some well accepted and continuously explored scientific theories.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:11 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I understand and enjoyed the concept of how he could access any point in time via the tesseract and was the one communicating to Murph to save mankind. I get it.
My point was that by implying it is future “us” helping to save humanity you assume that if they don’t do that mankind goes extinct. In that case, we never get to future “us” to have this whole interaction.
My head hurts.
My point was that by implying it is future “us” helping to save humanity you assume that if they don’t do that mankind goes extinct. In that case, we never get to future “us” to have this whole interaction.
My head hurts.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:24 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:
implying it is future “us” helping to save humanity you assume that if they don’t do that mankind goes extinct. In that case, we never get to future “us” to have this whole interaction
If you haven't read it yet, the wiki article on the movie covers some of the aspects of where the writers diverged from the physics advisors. Pretty good toilet reading.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 1:39 pm to StringedInstruments
quote:
How would that explain Cooper already existing in the future to send the coordinated back in time?
quote:
In daily life we divide time into three parts: past, present and future. The grammatical structure of language revolves around this fundamental distinction. Reality is associated with the present moment. The past we think of as having slipped out of existence, whereas the future is even more shadowy, its details still unformed. In this simple picture, the “now” of our conscious awareness glides steadily onward, transforming events that were once in the unformed future into the concrete but fleeting reality of the present—and thence relegating them to the fixed past.
quote:
Obvious though this commonsense description may seem, it is seriously at odds with modern physics. Albert Einstein famously expressed this point when he wrote to a friend, “The past, present and future are only illusions, even if stubborn ones.” Einstein's startling conclusion stems directly from his special theory of relativity, which denies any absolute, universal significance to the present moment. According to the theory, simultaneity is relative. Two events that occur at the same moment if observed from one reference frame may occur at different moments if viewed from another.
LINK
Posted on 7/23/23 at 2:59 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:
My point was that by implying it is future “us” helping to save humanity you assume that if they don’t do that mankind goes extinct. In that case, we never get to future “us” to have this whole interaction.
quote:
how did future us ever make it past that point to begin with and continue on to become super advanced interdemensional beings that needed to help save the human race?
Evolved. So they basically were willing to sacrifice their future in order to give their ancestors a shot at a better one.
The entire plot as it relates to time is captured in this graphic which is the best I’ve seen anywhere.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 3:16 pm to meeple
So, it’s the tesseract itself that sends the coordinates at the beginning if the film instead of Coop? Interesting….
Posted on 7/23/23 at 4:43 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
quote:
Not when you factor in that gravity is the only thing that can go forwards and backwards in time.
What’s that?
Posted on 7/23/23 at 6:11 pm to Philzilla
quote:
Not when you factor in that gravity is the only thing that can go forwards and backwards in time.
quote:
What’s that?
Right after they leave Millers planet Coop is asking Brand if they could gain back the time through a black hole or something. Brand said the only thing that can move backwards and forwards in the 5th dimension like time is gravity. Gravity is what Coop used in the 5th dimension to communicate with Murphy through time.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 8:02 pm to finchmeister08
quote:
Interstellar: If Cooper was never supposed to go into space….?
no one ever suggested this, cooper didnt want to go into space, but he had to, to try and save their future
quote:
how did he send the message if he wasn't in space, yet, at the beginning of the movie?
because time doesnt matter, they went into this the entire movie to the point you cannot not know this if you watched the movie.
he had to go because he already went, he just wasnt to that point in time yet for him to leave,
in the space without time (the box full of strands of time he found himself in) his future self had to find a way to send a message back in time, so he did.
dont be thinking time is linear, the whole point of the movie is time isnt linear. thats why his daughter is 100 years old and dying yet he hasnt aged a week the whole time since he left.
think about the space chick he gave up his life to save, if time was linear, she would be dead already by the time he got back to earth and then came back out to where she was.
she would have died years before he ever got home in linear time, yet in the alternate reality of time they were dealing with, he can go back and then leave to go meet her on that planet at the end to have a life with her.
i am in no way trying to suggest it makes rational sense, but as the movie laid it out, it followed the premise of how time worked, past and present, in that movie
This post was edited on 7/23/23 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 7/23/23 at 8:29 pm to finchmeister08
Tesseract and alien influence. I believe, that they are helping us now so that sometime, in the future, humanity would help them somehow.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 9:20 pm to Duzz
I took of it as Cooper reaching across the infinite multiverse of timelines at different times. In infinity that exact scenario is playing out an infinite number of times and he had access to all of them from inside the Blackhole. Maybe crazy but that’s how I make it kinda make sense to me.
Posted on 7/23/23 at 10:15 pm to BigturboSRTboy
quote:
I took of it as Cooper reaching across the infinite multiverse of timelines at different times. In infinity that exact scenario is playing out an infinite number of times and he had access to all of them from inside the Blackhole. Maybe crazy but that’s how I make it kinda make sense to me.
Cooper is reaching across a singular timeline at different times.
Page 2 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News