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100 mph fastball is the same as old school 93 mph.

Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:21 pm
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:21 pm
Until recently pitchers were clocked 10 feet in front of plate. Now, pitchers are clocked 10 feet from release. An 85 mph fastball (if registered by a Speedgun at the plate) would be roughly 93 mph if measured by Statcast out of the pitcher’s hand.

Fastball Measurement Has Changed Bigly!!

Nolan Ryan threw a 100.9 fastball in the 9th inning in August 1974 that would be over 108 mph today. His record as a pitcher is proof enough he threw extremely hard.

The video below shows a huge difference in velocity between Nolan Ryan and any chump pitching today!!

The Ultimate Heater

This post was edited on 7/16/23 at 9:28 am
Posted by Sp0728
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:23 pm to
U mad?
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:25 pm to
Not at all. When you see how quick Ryan's fastball gets to the plate there is no doubt something had changed.
Posted by TheWalrus
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:28 pm to
Your subject title and first paragraph is not supported by the content of the article, where did you get that from?
Posted by Honest Tune
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:32 pm to
Mitt pop tells no lies.
Posted by dallastiger55
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:33 pm to
Radars have definitely changed. Bob Gibson, JR Richard and Nolan all threw with the best of them today.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:34 pm to
I was wondering why the current gun registers a faster time than the old guns, such as the juggs gun. If the answer is because the speed is taken closer to the release point, that makes sense.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

Radars have definitely changed. Bob Gibson, JR Richard and Nolan all threw with the best of them today.



We have no way of actually knowing that.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:37 pm to
There’s usually a little truth in most lies.

quote:

100 mph fastball is the same as old school 93 mph


This is clearly untrue.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

Your subject title and first paragraph is not supported by the content of the article, where did you get that from?

The Pitch/FX system that MLB used in 2010 measured pitches at roughly 50 feet from home plate, which is where the 105.1 mph of Chapman’s fastball was measured.

Same Place I Got The Above

This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:42 pm
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:43 pm to
This thread is a bat signal for Tiger1988 or who ever that is who constantly talks about about Nolan throwing 140mph.
Posted by lastfan
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:43 pm to
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. People should know that Nolan Ryan was measured differently - that’s not even breaking news. Ryan threw harder than these guys who are clocking 100 mph today — much harder.
Posted by Sissidog02
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:44 pm to
Is it Football season yet?!?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

Nolan Ryan threw 100.9 in the 9th inning in August 1974 that would be over 108 mph today
That same “Radar” had him topping out at 86 in the first
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

That same “Radar” had him topping out at 86 in the first


Yes it did. Ryan was famous for getting stronger or shall we say faster as the game progressed.

The Radar picked Ryan's pitch up 10' from the plate. Radars now pick the pitch up very close to the release point of the pitcher.

The rest is math to arrive at 108 plus MPH.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:00 pm to
It is different but it’s closer to a 3mph difference not 7.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Nolan Ryan threw 100.9 in the 9th inning in August 1974 that would be over 108 mph today. His record as a pitcher is proof enough he threw extremely hard


Then explain to me why if Skenes fastball isn't as fast as you claim it is, why it wasn't touched for an entire season of college baseball?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:02 pm to
Bingo, it’s now top speed it used to the speed when it crossed the plate.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Ryan threw harder than these guys who are clocking 100 mph today — much harder.




Yeah no lol

ETA- humans have basically dominated every athletic record over time, but we’re supposed to believe that Nolan Ryan was throwing “much” harder 40 years ago than anyone today? Lulz
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:05 pm to
Because Skenes was throwing 100mph. The old vs new gun is more about understanding that the older guys threw a little harder if they’d have had the newer tech clocking them. It doesn’t take away from the new guys.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 9:10 pm
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