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Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:13 am to
Posted by Harlan County USA
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:13 am to
I just went ahead and copied and pasted the whole thing. Taken from a black B'ham news website.

The Birmingham Times


On Tuesday, the same day that Carlethia “Carlee” Russell’s parents talked about the return of their missing daughter on national television, a Birmingham attorney said that some parts of the story don’t add up.

While saying that he is happy the Russell is safe, Eric Guster, a legal analyst who appears on local and national television as well as across social media, has raised questions about Russell’s account that she was abducted while stopping on the side of an interstate to check on a child standing alone.

According to Hoover Police Department, Russell called 911 at about 9:34 p.m. on July 13 to report that a toddler was walking on the side of I-459. After getting off the phone with 911, Russell then called a family member as Russell stopped and checked on the toddler, according to police. Russell then reportedly disappeared not long after.

The 25-year-old returned home Saturday evening and was taken to UAB Hospital, police said.

“If there is someone out here snatching women, we would have a description by now,” said Guster in a Facebook video posted Tuesday, the same day that NBC’s Today show aired an exclusive interview with Russell’s parents.



“Her parents, in that interview, said that we’re still looking for an abductor. Who? The three-foot abductor? Six feet? 10 feet? How big is the dude? We need to know,” said Guster.

Additionally, the Birmingham lawyer, said that in the Today interview, Talitha, Russell’s mother, suggested that medical professionals were already on the scene when Russell returned home.

“We tried to hug as best we could, but I had to stand back because she was not in a good state, so we had to stand back and let medical professionals work with her…” said Talitha, crying during the Today show interview.

However, Guster said, medical professionals were not present when Russell arrived home. His statement is in line with what HPD has released, saying public safety officials had to be called out to the property after Russell returned.

“They had to call 911 for the medical professionals to come at the time, and you cannot convince me that if a child was missing for two or three days, that her parents did not hug her. The story didn’t make sense,” Guster said.

However, Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI special agent and now a law enforcement expert for Eagle Security Group, said Russell’s case is “complicated” and that it could be one of three avenues, a real abduction, a hoax or a mental health crisis. Evidence could support any of the three, Coffindaffer said.

If it was a mental health crisis, Coffindaffer said it’s likely that Russell herself believes her story, even if it’s false.

“That’s why she called 911, she abandoned her car because she believed she was being kidnapped. These things happen, these types of situations are very real—but I wouldn’t want to diagnose her that way at this point,” Coffindaffer told Newsweek.


Russell’s mother, Talitha, has said that HPD investigators are continuing to pursue her daughter’s abductor or abductors and that the family has been harassed since her daughter was declared missing.

“There were actually just so many calls and texts from people … I just didn’t know people could be so evil,” Talitha said in the Today interview.

She also said that her daughter had moments “when she had to physically fight for her life, and there were moments when she had to mentally fight for her life” and that her daughter is ” having to deal with the trauma of people just making completely false allegations about her.”

In his video, Guster said he views Russell’s parents “as victims” but that he needed to speak because of what harm could be done if Russell’s story is false.

“When people lie, this is how boys and men end up in prison for the rest of their lives—this right here—because when people come up with a story, they stick with it…Even when they go to court, they stick with it, and then 20 years later, the evidence is being overturned, and a person’s lost 20 years of their life in prison,” Guster said.

According to HPD, officers arrived on-scene within five minutes of Carlee’s 911 call to find Russell absent. Her wig, cell phone and purse, which contained her Apple Watch, were on the roadway near her vehicle, according to HPD.

The investigation immediately began after finding her absent, according to HPD.

At 10:44 p.m. on Saturday, HPD received a call saying that Russell had appeared at her parents’ home on-foot.

On Friday, the day after the search for Russell began, video was released showing footage from traffic cameras at the time of her disappearance.

In the video, a car can be seen moving slowly on the shoulder of the road, with its hazard lights on, before stopping next to a bright object. Then, a person appears to open the driver-side door and walk around the back of the vehicle to the passenger side.

Because of the quality of the video, little else is easy to see.

“Who drives with their caution lights on in the emergency lane in advance cause they see a toddler walking on the side of the interstate,” said Christy Ellard, a resident of St. Clair County, on an AL.com Facebook post of the video.

“Something isn’t adding up in this story,” Ellard added.

Why Carlee Russell Story Doesn't Make Sense
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 7:19 am
Posted by MasterDigger
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:16 am to

Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
2912 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:18 am to
quote:

You have more faith in our system than I do.


Giving false information is a class a misdemeanor with punishment of less than a year and not more than $6000 fine.

In Alabama any sentence longer than a year goes to the state. Anything less goes to county or municipality.

There is no reason the city of Hoover can't charge, find guilty and jail her in the city jail for up to 364 days.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62886 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:19 am to
quote:

go to the police and tell them everything I knew

Meh.
Most parents, even of murdering kids, aren't squealing to the police everything they know.
I'm not saying to keep pushing a lie, just I wouldn't confess anything.


Maybe something along the lines of," We talked to her Thursday, then we talked to her again Saturday night "
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4291 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:20 am to
quote:

Once I had deduced my kid had faked this whole thing I would certainly NOT appear on the Today show and double down on dumb.


A. My child was still a kid at 25 I would probably take a very long drive.

B They would be apologizing publicly to LE and then if I am paying the bills they will be doing community service for a bit because this bill is getting thick as the days tick by.



Posted by father2sons
In the woods, Alabama.
Member since Mar 2023
2249 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:28 am to
This is why 25 year olds pull this shite cause we still think they are kids.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79357 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:38 am to
quote:

However, Jennifer Coffindaffer, a retired FBI special agent and now a law enforcement expert for Eagle Security Group, said Russell’s case is “complicated” and that it could be one of three avenues, a real abduction, a hoax or a mental health crisis. Evidence could support any of the three, Coffindaffer said.


Did they boot this chick from the bureau for being a clown?

No way! It could be any of the three? What about aliens or circus carneys? UFOs perhaps as well. And to think, someone made the decision to add this nonsense in their article
Posted by Harlan County USA
Member since Sep 2021
538 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:51 am to
Hey man, she was a "special agent" not just any regular agent.

When this story first broke, I initially thought the girl was on a bad LSD trip with that T-shirt & diaper wearing male toddler she saw on the side of the interstate. She's seeing Oompa Loompas out here on 459!

Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79357 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:57 am to
How embarrassing good lord.

quote:

She's seeing Oompa Loompas out here on 459!


with or without Cheez-its? Very important
Posted by HowboutthemTigers
BHAM
Member since Dec 2007
2629 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131476 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:03 am to
the Bishop Swan has helped turn Carlee into a meme.
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1200 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:09 am to
Didn’t Carlee’s employer release a pretty long statement a few days ago in which they stated that some of the rumors regarding Carlee were false, but others are true?

So, the embezzlement rumors may or may not still be in play…
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18469 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Didn’t Carlee’s employer release a pretty long statement a few days ago in which they stated that some of the rumors regarding Carlee were false, but others are true? So, the embezzlement rumors may or may not still be in play…


That was yesterday.

Opinion is that embezzlement is false but swiping a bunch of cash to pay for this escapade is true.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79357 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:12 am to
Yea it was yesterday the spa place sent the memo.

What would you guys do if you were her right now? Come clean? Let it ride and stick to the abduction story? She's in a tight spot.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8668 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:12 am to
Question. Since she left her phone at the scene and came home Sat night - the police have her phone. I wonder if they asked her for the code so they could see if it contained any info about the “abduction”. And if she refused they would have known right then it was all faked.

Also wonder if she used her phone “notes” to plan it out:

1. Drive to Target and pick up extra Cheez-Its to tide me over for the kidnapping
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 8:14 am
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
10325 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:17 am to
quote:


So she left work around 820 and then went to the colonnade and target on 280? From the summit to those next 2 locations takes time just because 280 is a bitch and both of those shopping complexes are a pain in the arse. Ain’t not way she did all that plus a loop around 459 in less than an hour.


Tha bitch put da snacks in the bag and was Ghost like Swayze, yo.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18469 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:17 am to
quote:

What would you guys do if you were her right now? Come clean? Let it ride and stick to the abduction story? She's in a tight spot.


I’d never be in her position, so I have no idea.

If I were her, I would be a moron with a crazy decision to fake a disappearance. So I’d probably stick with it 100% because I’d be a moron.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 8:18 am
Posted by OneChanceFancy
Colorado
Member since Jun 2023
101 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Since she left her phone at the scene and came home Sat night - the police have her phone. I wonder if they asked her for the code so they could see if it contained any info about the “abduction”. And if she refused they would have known right then it was all faked


Meh. I for one am not giving the police access to my phone even if something bad does happen to me, unless they have a warrant.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
3768 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:34 am to
quote:

Meh. I for one am not giving the police access to my phone even if something bad does happen to me, unless they have a warrant.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86557 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:39 am to
From what I've gathered, Carlee actually emerged from the walking trail in the neighborhood that goes behind the southeast side of the street her parents live on. She came up through some backyards and entered the street then walked to her parents. Bsad on this it means she would have originated (been dropped off) inside the neighborhod at some point. In other words she didn't walk all the way from outsdie the neihgborhood or wasn't dropped off at the front entrance. It's extremely unlikely she would have accessed that trail system unless she began inside the neighborhood already.
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