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re: Autism among the Amish people

Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:52 pm to
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What is it about our modern lifestyle that is causing the rates of autism to increase so rapidly?
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Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1843 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:02 pm to
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So Im not sure what the diagnostic criteria is for it in 2023


I hear this a lot. My son is autistic, non verbal and was diagnosed around two years old. It’s pretty well defined sequence of testing, diagnosing, reports, and signatures to get an official diagnosis and to get insurance to pay for therapy.

A lot of folks I meet tell me their kid is autistic because a professional said they may be on the spectrum. They may be, but I think you’d be hard pressed to find a child who has been diagnosed based on their ADOS score that doesn’t have very apparent social deficiencies amongst probably some other issues.


Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:05 pm to
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it’s the definition that’s changing. You see the same thing for dyslexia, depression, anxiety, adhd, etc. More awareness sometimes equals more diagnoses.


This. Nowadays, damn near everyone on Reddit claims to be "autistic" ("high-functioning Aspergers", of course).
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 9:11 pm to
1:271 for Amish is probably the more accurate rate in the general population as well.

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Compared to 1 in 91 in non-Amish kids at that same period of time


Were the non-Amish kids screened with the same criteria? The grouping of functional Asperger’s kids as ASD along with the nonverbal kid who “stims” constantly (shakes arms/hands) is essentially the equivalent of a 60 year old diabetic with a hgb a1c of 7.5 being grouped with a type 1 diabetic 8 year old who needs insulin injections to survive.

I’m guessing the Amish ignore the socially awkward engineer types in regards to this diagnosis, while the baseline data includes them as ASD.
Posted by saderade
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Member since Jul 2005
25768 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:43 pm to
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Vaccines could play a role... especially the accelerated schedule in which we give vaccines to kids.
There is absolutely zero evidence this is true. Millions upon millions of children have been studied in countries all over the world and no link has ever been found. And it’s sad that this ignorance was updated 50 times.
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8889 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:47 pm to
It is the trendy thing for moms to do these days. Make posts on social media about how their child is “on the spectrum”
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13712 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 10:51 pm to
Is the secondary gain here more money in food stamps, disability checks, et al? Free babysitting (ABA therapy)?
Posted by Westbank111
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:23 pm to
VACCINES are a YUGE reason for increase in autism. There are statistics that show the rapid increase of vaccinations boom back In 70-80’s to the boom in autism growth.

I taught autism when I coached ball as well, a very horrible situation for parents, my heart goes out to them
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51161 posts
Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:25 pm to
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When comparing different groups using the SAME measures at the SAME time the Amish were 3 times less likely and Alaskans were 2.5 times less likely to have autism.


Additionally, we've gotten better at detecting autism in girls.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/12/23 at 11:52 pm to
This thread made me think of Mose Schrute.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26188 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:32 am to
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I taught autism when I coached ball as well


I think I may have cracked the code, if y'all would quit teaching it fewer kids would learn it. Problem solved.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14448 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:40 am to
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I taught autism when I coached ball as well, a very horrible situation for parents, my heart goes out to them


While it can be difficult, it’s far from horrible. They don’t need your heart bud.

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VACCINES are a YUGE reason for increase in autism.


Jesus Christ… This site depresses the shite out of me sometimes by reminding me how unbelievably unaware some people are about their lack of knowledge. What’s worse is they think they’re experts in the subject matter due to clickbait articles they likely only read the titles of.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 5:56 am to
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Aubie Spr96


I guess you’re only into responding to what you perceive as “drive by comments”, but choose to ignore when the information that you asked for is presented to you?

Can’t say I’m surprised, it’s typical
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1843 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 6:18 am to
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Is the secondary gain here more money in food stamps, disability checks, et al? Free babysitting (ABA therapy)?


Man, do people actually feel this way? ABA therapy is free babysitting? Food stamps for autism? You guys should go spend some time at the emerge center and identify the children whose parents are frauds. That’ll show em.
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10516 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:00 am to
Seems like diagnosing is the problem. Any introvert can claim autism now.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:06 am to
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Seems like diagnosing is the problem.


“How dare we look closer now for issues that we barely understood until 20 years ago, and are still learning to understand
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:07 am to

“How dare we look closer now for issues that we barely understood until 20 years ago, and are still learning to understand

Hows your fibromyalgia?
Posted by metallica81788
NO
Member since Sep 2008
8730 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:08 am to
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Vaccines do cause autism?

Um......nope.

And yes, I graduated from an actual med school


There's no hope in this thread - what started as an interesting topic of conversation was killed by the first page
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:18 am to
Don’t have it.

How’s your sobriety? Not holding up, judging from the fact that you’ve already forgotten how to use the quote function this early in the morning
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8889 posts
Posted on 7/13/23 at 8:21 am to
One of my employees dead beat ex husband collects disability for his 9 year old autistic son. The son doesn’t see a penny of that money. You tell me.
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