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re: Parents under 35, do you spank your children?

Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:41 pm to
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First, you protect and prevent. Narrate what is and isn't allowed. Then, go back to protect and prevent. Show/give them what they can do. Narrate that, then go back to protect and prevent. Praise good behavior.

Bingo. Basically, exactly what I said...repetition. Because that 1 single act of discipline in the moment at 1 year old absolutely will not work...that's not how this shite works.
Posted by LoneStarRanger
Texas/Europe
Member since Aug 2018
2404 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:42 pm to
My kids aren’t old enough to spank, but my wife and I have discussed it

So long as we do it with clear understanding, calm heads, and talk to our kids after a spanking as to why we had to spank them, we both agree it’s good for the child

The rule we are setting out is that spanking can never be in anger

We both think if kids were correctly disciplined more (including spanking) we wouldn’t be in this crazy tranny-pedo-commie society we are in today
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111155 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:44 pm to
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First I was asking shel since he knows so much

Glad we agree
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Plus, you tell a 1.5 year old NOT to stick keys in an outlet - guess what they’re going to do … if you take away the keys, then they will lick the outlet
Pssstt, if you spank him, guess what they're going to do? Yep, stick that key or lick that outlet all the same.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53966 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:45 pm to
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you are advocating for helicopter parenting? I


If your child is licking electrical outlets...yeah.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:46 pm to
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Because that 1 single act of discipline in the moment at 1 year old absolutely will not work...that's not how this shite works

When you tell the kid at 1.5 years old not to climb on the countertops, then tell them not to climb repeatedly until they are 6 years old - everyday at least 10 times a day and then they climb on top of the refrigerator- what do you do?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111155 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:46 pm to
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No, she isn’t. And no one in this thread has. So shut up with this strawman shite.

That poster kinda did.

Also, feel free to relax, it's a discussion. You're getting all pissy right now for no reason...it's ok to relax and discuss shite, it really is. It'll all be ok.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:48 pm to
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Pssstt, if you spank him, guess what they're going to do? Yep, stick that key or lick that outlet all the same.
not in my experience - they usually cry, wonder why the woman that gives me cookies hurt my bottom, and then crawl away to sulk and look for cookies
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:48 pm to
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No it can't, in any form.

It doesnt work on it's own and in combination with something else it only lessens the effectiveness of other involvement.

It's lazy violence in a desperate attempt to hold on to power.

Any disciplined instilled into someone that is or was spanked was done it spite of being beaten, not because of it.


You can have discipline without spanking and you can have it with. The only thing that's correct with your comment is spanking alone doesn't work.

Yes, it can work for some children. But it also takes a parent that understands and doesn't cross the line into something more abusive. Not every parent can handle that or recognize that. That's where it becomes a major issue.

There's a reason spanking isn't considered child abuse. Because it's not when used appropriately. It can be utilized as an effective disciplinary tactic/deterrent in the right situation with the right child.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111155 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:48 pm to
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When you tell the kid at 1.5 years old not to climb on the countertops, then tell them not to climb repeatedly until they are 6 years old - everyday at least 10 times a day and then they climb on top of the refrigerator- what do you do?

Let me turn that around, and ask you this: When you spank the kid at 1.5 years old for climbing on the countertops, then spank them repeatedly until they are 6 years old - everyday at least 10 times a day and then they climb on top of the refrigerator- what do you do?



You guys seem to have this fairy tale where you spank your kids 1 time and all problems are solved. The idea that you've never have to spank your kid multiple times for doing the same exact thing is nonsense, and I'm 100% certain you know that.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:49 pm to
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If your child is licking electrical outlets...yeah.
whatever, he’s the best at setting up all the electronic stuff
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
7839 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:49 pm to
I'm 36 and have a 5 year old that gets spanked sometimes. I use other methods, but sometimes that's all he responds to. Example, I can tell him all I want about not playing by near the pool at Grandpa's house. I can explain the dangers, praise when he plays somewhere else, take away toys, etc, but he'll keep going back. Spanking him once is all it takes to get him to not play by it anymore.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111155 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:49 pm to
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not in my experience - they usually cry, wonder why the woman that gives me cookies hurt my bottom, and then crawl away to sulk and look for cookies

So every time you've ever spanked your kid, they've never once repeated that behavior?


I believe you, totally.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99294 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Yeah, children definitely understand that open hand slaps are all out of love and that an extension cord is aggravated assault.

I'm sure they also believe mom really fell on the coffee table.


Holy projection, Batman.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:51 pm to
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So long as we do it with clear understanding, calm heads, and talk to our kids after a spanking as to why we had to spank them, we both agree it’s good for the child


Exactly what I did with mine.
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:53 pm to
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Yeah, children definitely understand that open hand slaps are all out of love and that an extension cord is aggravated assault.

I'm sure they also believe mom really fell on the coffee table.


That’s a terrible false equivalency.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26656 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:55 pm to
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You guys seem to have this fairy tale where you spank your kids 1 time and all problems are solved. The idea that you've never have to spank your kid multiple times for doing the same exact thing is nonsense, and I'm 100% certain you know that.

You don’t have kids, do you?
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
1661 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:01 pm to
That’s the problem with a lot of these kids these days , never got their arse whipped.
That time out bullshite don’t work.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11470 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:03 pm to
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If you feel you are needing to spank your kid, 9 out of 10 times its your issue not the kids





there's a big difference between spanking and beating. i know folks who spank their kids for no reason other than they feel like they haven't been spanked enough. pretty shitty
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 1:06 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111155 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:08 pm to
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You don’t have kids, do you?
Yes, I do...now what?


This is absolutely wild that a couple of you are arguing that 1 year olds can reason on that level. That's obviously nonsense, what are we doing right now? Kids that age can only think in terms of instant gratification. Say, 3 weeks later, the idea that they have anything else on their mind and would never dare do that thing again because you gave them a little pat on the butt or a little smack to their hand is just silly.


I'd just like to point out I've had you insinuate I mustn't have kids, another poster say I think I'm always right, and a 3rd poster have a complete all time level meltdown, and I've made only the following 2 points to cause that stir:

1. Spanking isn't necessary
2. 1 year olds can't reason on the level we're discussing here



I can't fathom anyone disagreeing with either of those 2 obvious statements, but here we are.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted by jessecraig
Member since Jun 2023
53 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:11 pm to
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A pop on the leg isn’t “violence.”


Conservatards are just as bad with redefining words as liberals. Quit being a fricking pussy. If you think hitting toddlers is a good idea, make the argument. The fact that you have to obfuscate what's actually happening demonstrates that you don't believe your position is defensible.
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