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re: Trump now claims those were secret golf course plans, not classified docs

Posted on 6/28/23 at 7:54 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124668 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 7:54 am to
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This is confusing. What are you talking about?
The DOJ duplicitously insinuated Trump had "Highly Classified" documents strewn across the floor at Mar-a-lago. The DOJ mistakenly inferred Trump had "Highly Classified" documents on his desk during a conversation which Trump knew was being recorded. Now that the premise is established, you still want to fantasize Trump was caught with something. Are you still confused?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39741 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 7:55 am to
it really doesnt matter with this tape. If it had any legal value, they wouldnt have leaked it.

There were no such Iran plans recovered in the MAL raid, so he was probably just running his mouth, bragging about his real estate portfolio, and bitching about the New Yorker article. Is this shocking?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124668 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 7:56 am to
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Now imagine trying to win a court case without any actual proof and arresting a President without any proof whatsoever
E Jean Carroll would like a word.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124668 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:02 am to
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There were no such Iran plans recovered in the MAL raid
Ahhh, but there WAS a framed Time Magazine cover!!



That makes him guilty, I'd say.


This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 8:03 am
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
28081 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:02 am to
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Trump's own words on the tape. He could've declassified these plans but didn't.

Lulz

How come those plans arent in the stack of prosecution documents?

They could have included them, but didnt. Why not? Because if they had them, why would they need to leak the tape?. Thats eveidence

Or is it because Trump didnt have them? And the leak was pure election interference?





You sure are a dumb shite
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10359 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:02 am to
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E Jean Carroll would like a word.


To be fair civil cases are a completely different animal and it's why celebrities rarely bother to contest them.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10359 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:03 am to
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Ahhh, but there WAS a framed Time Magazine cover!!


Lock him up!!
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:09 am to
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Now that the premise is established, you still want to fantasize Trump was caught with something. Are you still confused?


The “premise established”? Yes that is confusing.

Are you really trying to claim that Trump didn’t have the documents he is being indicted for?
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
28081 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:13 am to
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Are you really trying to claim that Trump didn’t have the documents he is being indicted for?

He is being indicted for "classified markings", on empty folders

The Iran was plans is not one of them
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:20 am to
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He is being indicted for "classified markings", on empty folders


I don’t know about that. If they’re empty folders then how do we have a general description of what each document contains?

quote:

The Iran was plans is not one of them


Yeah I’m not sure that it’s included in the indictment which only includes those documents found at MAL, although the indictment does make reference to some boxes that were flown to Bedminster in May 2021. Seems like a loose end.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39741 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:24 am to
He did this to himself!!!! If he would just KHS, he wouldnt have these problems!
-DavidTDS

Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
266 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:27 am to
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To real conservatives, it makes him just like Biden.


No real conservatives are doing anything other than holding their nose and voting for him out of necessity. He's a New York city democrat. He's just the garbage the idiots in our party are thrusting upon us. He's as corrupt as the rest of his ilk and this shows it. Real conservatives see through him and wish the idiots in the party would support Ron
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124668 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:34 am to
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Are you really trying to claim that Trump didn’t have the documents he is being indicted for?
The problem is, we don't know WTF any of those supposed documents actually are. One of them might be the framed Time Magazine Cover. If that's the case, it seems Trump definitely had it.

No, obviously the premise, until proven otherwise, is whatever Trump had, he was entitled to have. He claimed he declassed it all. The premise is that attempted charges under the espionage act are an absurdity. The premise is that with the tape (the one Smith & Co leaked), the DOJ thought they had a smoking gun. Now they know they didn't.

The premise is that your people are engaged in banana republic junta law.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4447 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:35 am to
Yeah, I tend to take what people say on face value.

That's why I really do believe that the gays are coming for my children.

Since both they and Trump are using the same argument here.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35509 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:36 am to
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How come those plans arent in the stack of prosecution documents?
They could have been in the group of documents he returned.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39741 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:36 am to
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No real conservatives are doing anything other than holding their nose and voting for him out of necessity. He's a New York city democrat. He's just the garbage the idiots in our party are thrusting upon us. He's as corrupt as the rest of his ilk and this shows it. Real conservatives see through him and wish the idiots in the party would support Ron



The no true Scotsman fallacy.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116841 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:37 am to
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Prosecution: Trump showed secret documents. Listen to the audio.

Trump: Where are these secret documents? How could I have shown secret documents if they don't exist? If they exist, show them to me.

Prosecution: "crickets"


Do you...do you think that's how it works?

Holy shite.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:38 am to
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The problem is, we don't know WTF any of those supposed documents actually are.


I’m pretty sure the government knows what they are.

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No, obviously the premise, until proven otherwise, is whatever Trump had, he was entitled to have.


Well obviously not.

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(the one Smith & Co leaked)


You seem really sure about that.

quote:

The premise is that your people are engaged in banana republic junta law.


Oh lawd
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116841 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:38 am to
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You sure are a dumb shite



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RobbBobb


You believe the Earth is 6k years old.

I know you people aren't smart, but them not having the document, if they don't, is pretty irrelevant.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30189 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:43 am to
Imagine thinking “we got ‘em now” again and then having all your hopes and dreams dashed with some Obi Wan Konobie “those aren’t the plans you’re looking for” shite.

No wonder the sky screamers hate Trump so much.
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