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Americans say they 1.3 million to have a comfy retirement

Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:27 pm
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:27 pm
Americans think they will need nearly $1.3 million to retire comfortably, study says. How to calculate your own ‘magic number’

According to this article, Americans believe they need about 1.3 million to have a good retirement. What does the Money Board think, is this too low or high? To get that number over a 40 year career you'd need to invest about $650 a month with a 6% return. Seems fairly attainable especially if you start early in your career.




Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14793 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:31 pm to
That's not enough to pay for Big Scrub's jet fuel in retirement, so I'm gonna go with too low.
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
8445 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:40 pm to
The takeaway on this one is the chart showing actually saved......goodness we are headed toward doomsday. This will certainly effect everyone not a multimillionaire.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
1801 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:42 pm to
If you consider average life expectancy of 76 and retiring at 65, then yeah you could easily make that work and be comfortable.

If you’re like me and want to retire at 50, then hell no. Now that I think about it, I’d probably die early from stressing so much about running out of money so I guess $1.3MM could work
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20662 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 3:50 pm to
If everything else is paid off… maybe, but I wouldn’t feel good about it with the current pace of inflation.
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13616 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:00 pm to
Friend,

If you do not have a trust fund, I was always taught you needed $3 million, your house and car paid off, and no outstanding debt to retire at age 65. What I have learned, though, is that there are so many variables that a rounded number makes no sense.

Focusing on retiring is a failed life goal. Keep costs low, donate at least 10% of your income to church, and be generous with your money is a much better way to approach money in your life than a magical retirement number. The goal of life is not retirement, and if your goal is to retire, it is time to reevaluate how you are currently living your life.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53116 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:06 pm to
I'm hoping for 1.5-2 but we'll see how it goes. This is the average retirement savings by age in the US. Most aren't saving nearly enough.

Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20551 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:07 pm to
What’s a good retirement?

I’ve always struggled with defining an amount since my wife and I are on state pension plans along with the promise of social security.

RSA calculator + social security calculator says we’ll have ~$9000/month using todays numbers when we’re 65. Seems pretty good to me, and that’s not considering our Roth, which should be worth around $300k by then.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53116 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:09 pm to
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What’s a good retirement?

If you are depending on 401k, IRA, ROTH etc than nobody knows because you don't know how long you'll live.

My grandfather retired at 59 and lived until 99. Imagine trying to navigate that without a pension like most of us will have to.
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15848 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

My grandfather retired at 59 and lived until 99. Imagine trying to navigate that without a pension like most of us will have to.

I plan on retiring around 68 so still got around 20 years too keep stashing money away. I have been out of the military for near 25 years and have never used the VA for
any type of medical but the closer i get to retirement plan on heading back there to use them if needed. Mostly for medications.

Dont know how many people plan on having enough saved to live comfortably until 99 though. The thing that worries me is how much us Gen X'ers will be getting back from SS when we get to retirement age. We have paid a boat load in. Would suck to get screwed.
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22292 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:47 pm to
Wow that chart is eye opening.

You still have to pay for two weddings, my man

This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 4:53 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53116 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:57 pm to
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You still have to pay for two weddings, my man

They will have to go cheap. Their parents eloped in Vegas
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53116 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

The thing that worries me is how much us Gen X'ers will be getting back from SS when we get to retirement age. We have paid a boat load in. Would suck to get screwed.

I'm shooting for 62 but I guess we'll see how that works out for me.

My wife is a couple years older than me so she can work until 65-66 and me 62 and we can retire around the same time. I just haven't mentioned that to her yet
Posted by grsharky
Member since Dec 2019
277 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

If you are depending on 401k, IRA, ROTH etc than nobody knows because you don't know how long you'll live.

My grandfather retired at 59 and lived until 99. Imagine trying to navigate that without a pension like most of us will have to.


I'll have a pension and if I work 30 years, my payout will be right at $52,000 a year as of now. I've been fairly aggressive saving in my 403b and Roth because I don't know if I want to stay the full 30 and may bow out earlier with a reduced payout. My wife is also pretty aggressive in the savings department with her accounts, but we really don't know what we'll need in retirement yet. I've always thought about shooting for 2.5 million between the two of us and then add in my pension as well. If we stay in our current house, we'll have that paid off in 2035 when I'm 51 and she's 46, but that's not a certainty. If we move we'll have a mortgage closer to or even in retirement. We have kids who will be graduating high school in 2035 and 2040 so paying for college will also be a factor. as well and who knows what that will cost by then (I shudder to think).

I never factor in SS because who knows what it will look like in 20+ years, if we get anything I figure it will be a bonus.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15848 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

I never factor in SS because who knows what it will look like in 20+ years, if we get anything I figure it will be a bonus.


Dang so all that money you paid in every paycheck you are expecting none of that ? I will raise hell if i dont get at least 50% of that back for SS. I saw you have a pension you probably dont pay much into SS anyway.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53116 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:50 pm to
We are probably old enough where we'll get something. Who knows what it'll be though. They'll probably just keep bumping the age up.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6648 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:53 pm to
Plan on “retiring” at age 40, debt free, with $1.6 in the bank.
Will work odd jobs and ends to bring in roughly $3k/month, plus interest and rentals bringing in $7k/month.
$10k/month with no debt should be very manageable.
Wife and one child, with possibly one more on the way.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19208 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:56 pm to
Everything I’ve looked at points to needing north of $2M in inflated 2033 dollars.

Theres a magic point where your income is lower than your earnings…so the value continues to rise. If you don’t get to that moment, you run the risk of running out of money.
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 6:01 pm
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
2920 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 5:58 pm to
@TulaneLSU,

I thought you were basically retired. What do you do? Somehow I always imagined you just living a life of leisure and traveling w Mother, Uncle and occasional cousins. This adds a whole different layer to your persona. I'm intrigued, tell us more. I want to see you financial tips top 10 etc...

p.s. Wasn't there a po-boy tour venture at one point?
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 6:08 pm
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30920 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 6:00 pm to
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$9000/month using todays numbers when we’re 65.


Keep in mind that is not tax free money.
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