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re: Coup in Russia? Gov demands Wagner Group to stand down

Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:51 pm to
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:51 pm to
I understand how embarrassing it will be for you if Putin fails here.

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you aren’t known for living in reality.


We’re taking Kiev in three days. Get in, loser.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:54 pm to
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Russian government officials are demanding that the Russian mercenary Wagner group stand down

Well no shite moron
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13007 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 10:58 pm to
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understand how embarrassing it will be for you if Putin fails here.


Bookmarked for a year from now when you’re still predicting Putin has cancer and the mighty Ukrainian army is going to march on Moscow any day.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80399 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:04 pm to
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Bookmarked for a year from now when you’re still predicting Putin has cancer and the mighty Ukrainian army is going to march on Moscow any day.


I don’t know what’s going to happen, my dude.

But I know you’re not taking Kiev in three days and you (and I) also did not have Wagner pseudo-coup on your bingo card.

But prayers sent your guys pull it together and don’t implode on themselves like that dipshit submarine a few days ago.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103976 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:10 pm to
Yahoo story
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The mercenary leader escalated his defiance on Friday, asserting that military leaders were “deceiving the public and the president” about why a war with Ukraine was necessary in the first place. He accused military leaders of fear-mongering about a potential Ukrainian invasion that was never coming to justify launching an invasion of their own.

Gee, I wonder where Putin would get that idea. I'm sure Putin was "deceived".

This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 11:12 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25413 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:12 pm to
So the Mercs are upset because they don’t have enough supplies yet they’re gonna hump it all the way back to Moscow? Then what are they gonna do, without fuel or ammo?
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:18 pm to
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Bookmarked for a year from now when you’re still predicting Putin has cancer and the mighty Ukrainian army is going to march on Moscow any day.




I'd take Putin in a death pool over Biden, and I've heard no one claim the Ukrainian Army was going to march on Moscow.

But if you are rooting for Putin his problems have gotten much more complex. The Russian military is low morale and wants to fight other Russians for grandpa Bunker less than it want to be in Ukraine.

I don't see PMC Wagner marching all the way to Moscow in combat, but if the Russian troops lay down their arms as easily as they did in Rostov on D this could snowball like 1917.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11500 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:24 pm to
Seeing some videos from Russia. There appears to be no fighting. Just seeing some Wagner vehicles posted up in some locations, and in some places there are local police cars gathered but they aren't doing anything. It's like Wagner people are there but aren't really doing anything, even seeing city workers sweeping streets, people next to Wagner vehicles taking cell phone video, regular traffic moving around. Pretty weird looking.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10095 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:26 pm to
There's just no local resistance because nobody expected this
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:27 pm to
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Seeing some videos from Russia. There appears to be no fighting. Just seeing some Wagner vehicles posted up in some locations, and in some places there are local police cars gathered but they aren't doing anything. It's like Wagner people are there but aren't really doing anything, even seeing city workers sweeping streets, people next to Wagner vehicles taking cell phone video, regular traffic moving around. Pretty weird looking.


What is Wagner suppose to be doing for the cameras? If the Russian Army is doing nothing that is the crucial event. A civil war where the Feds aren't resisting is bad for the center.
Posted by Scott68
Washington Coast
Member since Mar 2020
222 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11500 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:36 pm to
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What is Wagner suppose to be doing for the cameras?


Why don't you tell me.

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If the Russian Army is doing nothing that is the crucial event. A civil war where the Feds aren't resisting is bad for the center.


Maybe there isn't a civil war. I don't think any of us actually knows what's going on.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:41 pm to
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Why don't you tell me.


Taking control of the city and responding to resistance, apparently very little has been reported so far. headquarters of the Southern military District is in RonD and if that has been taken, the Russia Army isn't offering much resistance to the coup.

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Maybe there isn't a civil war. I don't think any of us actually knows what's going on.


Enough video has been released to show Wagner PMC has largely left Ukraine and is active in Russia. And it probably isn't a civil war, just a coup so far.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 11:43 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11500 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:45 pm to
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Enough video has been released to show Wagner PMC has largely left Ukraine and is active in Russia. And it probably isn't a civil war, just a coup so far.


Perhaps a coup. I guess we'll see. I'm skeptical because this Wagner guy keeps having these episodes but they seem contrived.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4234 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:47 pm to
This is about as relevant to the US as Ukraine. Maybe interest because of nukes and a power vacuum, but not much else. Russia’s problem, not the US.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19719 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:52 pm to
Popcorn.

It could be an elaborate roos. However, if the Russian Army did indeed shell the Wagner Group it could call for more popcorn.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19719 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:53 pm to
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It would be good for a Russian Napoleon to emerge.


They already have that and his name is Putin.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47674 posts
Posted on 6/23/23 at 11:59 pm to
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It could be an elaborate roos.


quote:

roos


Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11500 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:02 am to
Saw a video of Prigozhin speaking - saying he wants to meet with some higher up and he'll keep driving to Moscow if he has to in order to meet with them. Did not mention Putin. Says Wagner has some military HQ's and airfields partially to insure no combat ops in Ukraine are compromised, so the Ukraine ops are continuing as normal, according to him.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7369 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:15 am to
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Then what are they gonna do, without fuel or ammo?


If they take Rostav then they have access to one of the major hubs of Russian logistics,supplies and arms for the war.
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