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re: Jay Johnson on the pitching plan
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:35 pm to Captain Crown
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:35 pm to Captain Crown
Haven't read one comment yet but to me, the goal isn't to beat Tennessee - it's to win the CWS. Winning the first 2 games is everything. That said I'd be looking to get by Tennessee by committee.
If Wake Forest takes care of their business, Pitch Skenes against Wake. Of course Wake may well be thinking the same thing with Rhett Lowder.
This brings up a question, who posts first or is there even such a thing. Wake plays before LSU, and depending on who they start, I'd strongly consider saving Skenes for that offense, that trying to get by them by committee.
I am sure many have considered this as well.
If Wake Forest takes care of their business, Pitch Skenes against Wake. Of course Wake may well be thinking the same thing with Rhett Lowder.
This brings up a question, who posts first or is there even such a thing. Wake plays before LSU, and depending on who they start, I'd strongly consider saving Skenes for that offense, that trying to get by them by committee.
I am sure many have considered this as well.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 8:37 pm
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:38 pm to Honkus
I said this somewhere else but agree. We need to outhit Tennessee in the first game, hang on, then get Skenes on Wake Forest, Of course that's saying Standford doesn't beat them. Wake may be thinking the same thing, and saving Lowder for an expected LSU team.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:40 pm to wheelz007
Insane that 48 that never played T ball would thumb down a perfectly reasonable take. Stay smart Mensas.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:43 pm to Ironhead985
Delusional as are the Mensas that thumbed your BS take up to begin with. Do you or your followers even grasp the purpose of competing there Mensa.
The GOAL genius, is to win the CWS, not beat Tennessee. Bubbas - blithering and drivel to the end.
The GOAL genius, is to win the CWS, not beat Tennessee. Bubbas - blithering and drivel to the end.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:44 pm to jlovel7
Right said Fred - exactly.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:46 pm to deathvalleytiger10
Talk about missing the point. AGAIN, ANYONE can win ANY GAME in the CWS. Ole Piss proved that last year.
Tennessee could beat Skenes and Stanford could beat Lowder.
That said, I consider BOTH unlikely and wish to WIN the CWS and not just get a participation ribbon and bumper sticker for beating Tennessee.
Tennessee could beat Skenes and Stanford could beat Lowder.
That said, I consider BOTH unlikely and wish to WIN the CWS and not just get a participation ribbon and bumper sticker for beating Tennessee.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:48 pm to Honkus
Lose first game and they won’t be playing Wake Forest at all.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:50 pm to Templars
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I am sure many have considered this as well.
I bet the one person who makes the decisions isn't considering it one bit.
JJ threw Skenes against TULANE.....
4 SEED TULANE....
40 LOSS TULANE....
If that doesn't tell you everything you need to know about throwing him against Tennessee, idk what else does.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:55 pm to Templars
Thought goes into the pitching lineup by the coach...
I think we see Skenes game 1, Floyd game 2.
Here's the way I read the tea leaves: Skenes is the better pitcher by a good bit, and Wake has a better lineup by a fair amount. But Tennessee is no slouch at all in terms of talent.
Tennessee's guys have seen Skenes and Floyd already. This was when we were cruising, and they were struggling. Skenes handled them, gave up 1 run in 7 innings. Floyd gave up 4 in 5 innings.
I think the idea is that Skenes is as close to a sure win as it gets, whereas Floyd against Tennessee is a tossup, and that will eat into the bullpen.
It would be nice to save Skenes for Wake, but at least they haven't seen Floyd once already. And if Skenes handles business against Tenn like he did with Tulane, you save the bullpen. Our guys will have a game under their belts, should be more relaxed and comfortable in game 2 at the plate.
Don't frick around and get cute in this tournament. A couple really good teams are going to go 0-2, first thing you want to do is not be one of them.
I think we see Skenes game 1, Floyd game 2.
Here's the way I read the tea leaves: Skenes is the better pitcher by a good bit, and Wake has a better lineup by a fair amount. But Tennessee is no slouch at all in terms of talent.
Tennessee's guys have seen Skenes and Floyd already. This was when we were cruising, and they were struggling. Skenes handled them, gave up 1 run in 7 innings. Floyd gave up 4 in 5 innings.
I think the idea is that Skenes is as close to a sure win as it gets, whereas Floyd against Tennessee is a tossup, and that will eat into the bullpen.
It would be nice to save Skenes for Wake, but at least they haven't seen Floyd once already. And if Skenes handles business against Tenn like he did with Tulane, you save the bullpen. Our guys will have a game under their belts, should be more relaxed and comfortable in game 2 at the plate.
Don't frick around and get cute in this tournament. A couple really good teams are going to go 0-2, first thing you want to do is not be one of them.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:14 pm to Templars
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then get Skenes on Wake Forest,
And what if your plan doesn’t work out and we lose and don’t play Wake? Now we are one game in and one loss away from going home.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:13 am to Honkus
We threw Skenes vs Tulane. No chance we keep him on ice. However- the advantage of doing so would be
1. Tenner has seen him once
2. Wake has not.
I still thing we go all in for GM 1
1. Tenner has seen him once
2. Wake has not.
I still thing we go all in for GM 1
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:19 am to Templars
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the goal isn't to beat Tennessee - it's to win the CWS.
Football fans band wagoning baseball aren't going to understand. They still have an "Alabama football" mentality.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:53 am to Templars
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Of course Wake may well be thinking the same thing with Rhett Lowder.
Stanford’s lineup is legit. Wake will have to pitch Lowder against them.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:54 am to Flannmann
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1. Tenner has seen him once
They've seen everyone we have.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:56 am to Flannmann
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However- the advantage of doing so would be
1. Tenner has seen him once
2. Wake has not.
Tenn has seen Floyd too and who do you think has a better shot of beating a team the second time they see him Skenes or Floyd?
It’s Omaha every team is good at this point. You do what you got to do to win the next game then worry about the one after that when you are finished.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:56 am to deathvalleytiger10
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Now we are one game in and one loss away from going home.
With Skenes on the bump. Not ideal but not the dooms day scenario you're trying to make it out to be.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:01 am to wheelz007
Tenn is better than Wake.. You have to win the Tenn game and it gives you a chance to use Skenes two games which is most important.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:02 am to Scoob
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Tennessee's guys have seen Skenes and Floyd already. Skenes handled them, gave up 1 run in 7 innings. Floyd gave up 4 in 5 innings.
Nice post, Scoob. Probably the most sound reasoning I've seen on why we'd go with Skenes. Id bet its pretty close to CJJs thought process as well.
He is meticulous and guarantee he's weighed all options regarding who to start game 1.. despite what the "muh you always start your ace" sky screamers around here have said.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 8:04 am
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:17 am to JPLSU1981
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do we know FOR CERTAIN that Wake/Stanford is better than Tenn?
I think wake has been the best team all year, but no, we dont. And i think wake to tenn isnt a big difference in skill or talent.
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I think the difference between Tenn and Wake/Stanford is probably marginal at best, that’s why I’m fine going Skenes Game1 and opening up more opportunities with Skenes as the tourney plays out, especially if there are bad weather days that extends the tourney out.
All this
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:32 am to Honkus
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With Skenes on the bump
Skenes will be pitching every game after the first loss?
No he won't. You are a loss away from going home if you lose game one.
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