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re: CNN: Ron praised Fauci in 2020, “he is doing a really good job.”

Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:20 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:20 am to
Trump signed his check. Of course, given Trumps history of surrounding himself with failure, that should have been a sign.

But, again, you go with the best advice you think you can get and during that time of the virus there were just too many unknowns. I dont fault anyone for erring on the side of caution, nor do I fault them for being more aggressive.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:24 am to
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I dont fault anyone for erring on the side of caution, nor do I fault them for being more aggressive.
How about "2 weeks to flatten the curve" that they all knew was bullshite.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:46 am to
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How about "2 weeks to flatten the curve" that they all knew was bullshite.

I dont know what was bullshite or not. One could have easily believed that a couple weeks would allow things to stabilize. And a message had to be sent. "look, we dont know what will happen for a year or more, so sit tight and dont worry about empty grocery store shelves" wasnt a message that would have settled people down.

But, I also dont believe everyone I dont agree with politically is a horrible person
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:55 am to
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Not all of us.

Things we knew in March of 2020.

We had enough ventilators.
The hospitalization rate for cases was under 5%.
The rate of patients in ICU was under 2.5% per case.
The IFR was under 1%.
The course of the illness in average was under 20 days.
Younger people and healthy people are at significantly less risk.

Those don't look like March 2020 numbers but whatever you say.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:52 pm to
I’m not sure what you’re saying. That’s what we knew in March of 2020. We had worldwide data to look at.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69447 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Lol weak as frick

Keep swinging Cult 45


Did you know that Ron Desantis shut Florida down?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:15 pm to
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I’m not sure what you’re saying. That’s what we knew in March of 2020. We had worldwide data to look at.

I'm saying those might be March, 2020 numbers but they weren't known in March. Some sort of retrospective metanalysis done some months later arrived at the numbers you list.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:18 pm to
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Did he give him a medal in January of 2021?


Yup. Strangely enough, the only people that had a problem with it at the time were us more discerning, intelligent folk that were not & did not exhibit the cult-like behavior that is so often, (and foolishly I might add), attributed to Trump supporters. The only true blind followers were/are the virtuous vaxaddicts of the Covidian Cult.

Yup, Trump gave Fauci a medal, Trump supporters gave Fauci the finger, while all of the jab junkies were lining up to give Fauci a coronation & a blowjob.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:22 pm to
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but they weren't known in March.

But they were. We can wish they weren’t. Or pretend they weren’t. We cannot say they weren’t known.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18334 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:27 pm to
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ut they were. We can wish they weren’t. Or pretend they weren’t. We cannot say they weren’t known.

The Diamond Princess gave some good indications of what Covid was/what it wasn't, and I think that was quarantined early February.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:30 pm to
There was pretty indicative data out of China by March, as well.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:31 pm to
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Did you know that Ron Desantis shut Florida down?


Link?

Who advised him to do so? What did he do after May?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39768 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:33 pm to
Can people please stop acting like we were all psychic back in 2020? Is that too much too ask?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:33 pm to
As soon as we stop pretending no one knew anything.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39768 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:35 pm to
Sure. Too bad the people who knew were lying to world leaders.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111803 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:38 pm to
Eh. There was plenty of stuff out there.

You could do back of napkin calculations and figure out we had way more than enough ventilators. But somehow we had to trust the NIH for that?(We didn’t)

Looking at the early numbers out of China should have guided us more than the psyop videos. But we let the videos guide us.

Looking at the vaccine trial data should have told us a lot. But no one really paid attention.

At some point, that’s a failure of leadership.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39768 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:42 pm to
I agree. It took a tremendous amount of courage for Ron, Kemp, and Abbot to do what they did in the face of near-global consensus. Too bad it took nearly a year to do it.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:43 pm to
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Eh. There was plenty of stuff out there.

Like what? And where? Those must pretty easily cited and attachable sources to have been of the immense weight and significance significance to change gears and go all in on - all against the grain. Can we see the same information that was completely available to Trump?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39768 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 4:48 pm to
It’s pretty easy to “play it safe” when you’re in charge and there are so many unknowns, but just remember the initial response ended up being 100% correct.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111803 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 5:05 pm to
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