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What do you define as job hopper?

Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:15 am
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12272 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:15 am
At what point does job movement on a resume look bad?

If I see someone hasn’t stayed at a job for more than 2 years before moving on, I eliminate their resume.

Then I start looking at mine. It seems like my magic number is 5-6 years before burn out hits and ready for something new. Is that a red flag esp for a higher level candidate?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42299 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Is that a red flag esp for a higher level candidate?
depends on the field
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261542 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:17 am to
quote:

At what point does job movement on a resume look bad?


In todays market, very little anymore.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6831 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:17 am to
How is your Bud Light weekend going?
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4896 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:18 am to
If someone is making multiple lateral moves in a five year span you gotta question what the problem is, and I mean literally question it in an interview. “I hate my boss” for three consecutive jobs isn’t a boss problem it’s an employee problem.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2106 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:18 am to
If they’re all lateral moves then it really doesn’t matter what the frequency is because I’m not interested in hiring them. If someone has made a clear path of progression then I don’t care if they jumped every 6 months.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41714 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:20 am to
It’s an employee’s market nowadays. The older generation tends to be more loyal and stay longer but the younger generation has high standards with jobs. I’ve been at my current company for two years but don’t think for one minute that if I find a better opportunity that I won’t jump ship. I do what’s best for me and my family, not what’s best for my company. If I die today, I will be replaced in a month. frick my employer, they’ll be just fine without me. I work most weekends and I’m working today (and some other holidays) - I get paid well to do it but I’d 100% take a $10,000-$20,000 a year paycut to be off more with similar benefits.

We’re all replaceable and nobody looks out for me like I look out for me. Employers need to understand this is a two-way street and they no longer have the upper hand. If we get pissed off, we’ll just move on.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67018 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:21 am to
you’re still allowed to start threads?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45066 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:22 am to
quote:

At what point does job movement on a resume look bad?


It doesn't anymore. There is no more loyalty in the workforce. Why should employees continue to be loyal to employers who always pay outside hires more than they would if they promoted someone internally? Employees have to job hop now to get pay raises.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 10:23 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12974 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:22 am to
I look at salary progression and discuss it with them in the final interview. It’s ok to change jobs, and I’m less concerned about duration and frequency, but I want to hear how it advanced their career.
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2088 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:22 am to
quote:

If I see someone hasn’t stayed at a job for more than 2 years before moving on, I eliminate their resume.
You should also look at whether the job titles change.

If these are lateral moves within the same industry, I'd be skeptical too.

ETA: and by "job title" I mean job responsibility, regardless of what was printed on the business card.
This post was edited on 5/29/23 at 10:47 am
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4658 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:24 am to
I like to stay in the same place, did 31 years military (most of it guard) and currently working on my 34th year as a gub'mint civilian.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:39 am to
Changing jobs every few years is common in my industry, so it's not a red flag
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97713 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:40 am to
I’m fine with people hopping every two years if it’s for more money. I do it too, magic number is 25% and I’m gone
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35603 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:44 am to
It depends. Some of our employeees are embedded personnel on sites. I look harshly at job hoppers for those positions because they're 3 year contracts and I want someone that will fulfill the contract.

Employess that aren't embedded I will not look as harshly at job hopping but I will want to hear an explanation for it.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
53957 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:45 am to
Look at this thread full of management who consider resumes and hire/fire. I second the question of why this idiot can still start threads.
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5601 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:48 am to
it’s a red flag for sure. I’ve hired and fired at least a dozen people over the last 20 years. The job hoppers stick out and almost never work out
Posted by icegator337
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
3507 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:52 am to
Changing jobs every 3-5 years is in general an employees best move. I've read studies that say a white collar employee will leave 500k-1mm on the table over the course of a career if they don't change jobs for more pay. Sitting at a job and waiting for an employer to give you a raise for good performance is a fools errand.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27348 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:55 am to
quote:

If I see someone hasn’t stayed at a job for more than 2 years before moving on, I eliminate their resume.



That is idiotic considering typical salary progression for the employees that stay put, you're lucky to get 1-2% annual raises but even a lateral move will most likely net a boost of 10% to your salary.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38818 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:58 am to
First 10y of career had 5 jobs but revirginated after working 11y at one job

Wouldn't hate it if I ride current to retirement
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