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Belly-aching "homeowners" and the politicians who love them
Posted on 11/18/08 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 11/18/08 at 5:05 pm
What ever happened to taking out a mortgage and paying on that mortgage? (ie: agreeing to the terms you signed off on when you got a mortgage loan for your home)
I am really getting sick and tired of the bleeding hearts in Washington making statements like "We don't won't these people to lose their homes!" and "We need to help them!" They are just trying to look like some heroes to their "poor" constituents.
Where I come from, if you sign into a contract, it means that you are promising to the terms of that contract, including making the payments you agreed to. You also agreed that if you could not pay your mortgage, you basically lose the home. That seems fairly simple to me.
I have had my first home for the past 6 years. I took out a loan that I could afford and luckily I've held the same job all these years so my income has been consistent. But if something were to happen and I couldn't pay my mortgage, I might lose my home...that would be the hit I would have to take. I am a grown up and that is how life works. You deal with the tough stuff and move on.
Moral of the story: I am responsible for the mortgage I signed my name to....not the government. I would never expect them to "bail me out" because either I made a not-so-sound financial decision in the first place or I was unable to pay my mortgage b/c of the current recession or other circumstances in my life.
Bottom line....you do what you have to do. And if you lose your house....there is always another option...somewhere! Family, friends, a roommate, a cheaper place....something!
I know that there are people who really are in a tight spot because of unforseen medical expenses or something like that....and those people I really do have compassion for. I also have some compassion for a person who's job is eliminated because their company has gone belly up. But there are other jobs out there...even if it means having to move closer to a new job to make ends meet or working more than 1 job. You just have to be willing and able to work. Its the sort of sacrifice we have to make sometimes. In my past, I've done it myself. I've lived in a tiny apartment that was so small I could barely move around in it....because thats all I could afford. I was in college (student loans) and working 3 jobs to make ends meet....but I got through it. You do what you have to do to get by and survive!
Thats why this whole mortgage bailout situation makes me sick. I know that many of these homeowners who need "help" are in that situation because of bad financial decisions. Its time for American citizens to take responsibility for themselves, their decisions (both good and bad) and their actions.
Sorry, I just had to vent...because I AM paying my mortgage....is anyone else out there doing the same?

I am really getting sick and tired of the bleeding hearts in Washington making statements like "We don't won't these people to lose their homes!" and "We need to help them!" They are just trying to look like some heroes to their "poor" constituents.
Where I come from, if you sign into a contract, it means that you are promising to the terms of that contract, including making the payments you agreed to. You also agreed that if you could not pay your mortgage, you basically lose the home. That seems fairly simple to me.
I have had my first home for the past 6 years. I took out a loan that I could afford and luckily I've held the same job all these years so my income has been consistent. But if something were to happen and I couldn't pay my mortgage, I might lose my home...that would be the hit I would have to take. I am a grown up and that is how life works. You deal with the tough stuff and move on.
Moral of the story: I am responsible for the mortgage I signed my name to....not the government. I would never expect them to "bail me out" because either I made a not-so-sound financial decision in the first place or I was unable to pay my mortgage b/c of the current recession or other circumstances in my life.
Bottom line....you do what you have to do. And if you lose your house....there is always another option...somewhere! Family, friends, a roommate, a cheaper place....something!
I know that there are people who really are in a tight spot because of unforseen medical expenses or something like that....and those people I really do have compassion for. I also have some compassion for a person who's job is eliminated because their company has gone belly up. But there are other jobs out there...even if it means having to move closer to a new job to make ends meet or working more than 1 job. You just have to be willing and able to work. Its the sort of sacrifice we have to make sometimes. In my past, I've done it myself. I've lived in a tiny apartment that was so small I could barely move around in it....because thats all I could afford. I was in college (student loans) and working 3 jobs to make ends meet....but I got through it. You do what you have to do to get by and survive!
Thats why this whole mortgage bailout situation makes me sick. I know that many of these homeowners who need "help" are in that situation because of bad financial decisions. Its time for American citizens to take responsibility for themselves, their decisions (both good and bad) and their actions.
Sorry, I just had to vent...because I AM paying my mortgage....is anyone else out there doing the same?
This post was edited on 11/18/08 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 11/18/08 at 5:08 pm to AmyLSUAlum01
I am but I am looking into options wherein I will sufficiently damage my house to drive it below the outstanding value of the mortgage so that I can get a bailout from you.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 5:10 pm to Colonel Hapablap
Thanks...its good to know you care 
Posted on 11/18/08 at 5:18 pm to AmyLSUAlum01
I just don't get why the government is determined to "help" people by keeping them saddled with decades of debt they shouldn't have undertaken in the first place.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 5:29 pm to Colonel Hapablap
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I am but I am looking into options wherein I will sufficiently damage my house to drive it below the outstanding value of the mortgage so that I can get a bailout from you.
I have a little rotting patch on my front porch that I had a guy look at over the weekend, and he's supposed to give me an estimate to repair it, this week.
You're saying, I should just say f it, and save on the repair costs?
Posted on 11/18/08 at 5:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I think so. I am considering not doing my Gustav roof repairs and just getting a re-appraisal.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 6:04 pm to AmyLSUAlum01
Thanks, Amy. I can agree with most of what you say.
Forgive the Colonel. I think he is often taking the side of the devil’s advocate to force us to consider other opinions. But, he is easily capable of speaking for himself, so please don’t take my word for it.
I, too, have worked a job and ½ for a good bit of my life. I have used the income from my second job to put children through college and to add to my savings for retirement. Because of a job transfer I bought a home that is now upside down. I knew it was a possibility. Thank God I bought well below what I was capable of purchasing and my potential loss is something I can absorb. Not that I am happy about the situation, but at least I am not asking the government or anyone else for help.
Your compassion for people that are in a situation because of unforeseen circumstances is also appreciated. Some people are just so unfortunate and should be assisted. Others it seems always have their hand out. Some mindsets like the Colonial’s, I hope, hypothetical scenario of destroying his property enough to qualify for relief, are what really scare me.
Amy, somehow I think your “can do” attitude will serve you well in the long run. I hope so because the future of our country is depending on the success of people like you.
Forgive the Colonel. I think he is often taking the side of the devil’s advocate to force us to consider other opinions. But, he is easily capable of speaking for himself, so please don’t take my word for it.
I, too, have worked a job and ½ for a good bit of my life. I have used the income from my second job to put children through college and to add to my savings for retirement. Because of a job transfer I bought a home that is now upside down. I knew it was a possibility. Thank God I bought well below what I was capable of purchasing and my potential loss is something I can absorb. Not that I am happy about the situation, but at least I am not asking the government or anyone else for help.
Your compassion for people that are in a situation because of unforeseen circumstances is also appreciated. Some people are just so unfortunate and should be assisted. Others it seems always have their hand out. Some mindsets like the Colonial’s, I hope, hypothetical scenario of destroying his property enough to qualify for relief, are what really scare me.
Amy, somehow I think your “can do” attitude will serve you well in the long run. I hope so because the future of our country is depending on the success of people like you.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 6:20 pm to PlanoPrivateer
What about me?
I have been renting. I don't even have a mortgage to get helped with. I was saving money for a down payment so I could get a payment I could afford like a real sucker. Now the government will keep real estate at inflated prices making me purchasing anything less appealing.
I have been renting. I don't even have a mortgage to get helped with. I was saving money for a down payment so I could get a payment I could afford like a real sucker. Now the government will keep real estate at inflated prices making me purchasing anything less appealing.
Posted on 11/18/08 at 6:43 pm to 8thyearsenior
I agree with everything you said Amy. People knew what they were getting into so why bail them out for ignorant decisions.
Posted on 11/19/08 at 12:35 am to AmyLSUAlum01
quote:
I am really getting sick and tired of the bleeding hearts in Washington making statements like "We don't won't these people to lose their homes!" and "We need to help them!" They are just trying to look like some heroes to their "poor" constituents.
+1
Don't save dumbasses from their dumbass mistakes because they'll just be dumbasses again and commit more dumbass mistakes.
Posted on 11/19/08 at 11:35 am to PlanoPrivateer
Thanks Plano....I hope there are more people think like me. I'm very fortunate that I was raised in a stable family environment with a father who worked to support us and made all the right decisions along the way. My parents have been married for over 40 years and they have been great role models for me.
Posted on 11/19/08 at 12:28 pm to AmyLSUAlum01
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AmyLSUAlum01
ah like da way u tulk.
No, but really. Wanna get married?
Posted on 11/19/08 at 12:39 pm to Colonel Hapablap
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I am but I am looking into options wherein I will sufficiently damage my house to drive it below the outstanding value of the mortgage so that I can get a bailout from you.
should I stay at your house instead of mom's? My stench is hard to get out of carpet or the walls.
Its just an idea. I will require payment though......maybe an ounce of ganja?
Posted on 11/19/08 at 2:25 pm to AmyLSUAlum01
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Moral of the story: I am responsible for the mortgage I signed my name to....not the government.
Thanks for being a responsible homeowner!
Posted on 11/19/08 at 2:50 pm to Colonel Hapablap
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I am but I am looking into options wherein I will sufficiently damage my house to drive it below the outstanding value of the mortgage so that I can get a bailout from you.
Based on some proposals, you may also need to show that your ratio of housing costs (P&I, Insurance and Taxes) to total verified income is greater than 31%. Then, the government may reduce your interest rate and extend the amortization period to bring the ratio to 31% (i.e., make the loan more affordable). In some cases, the government may also reduce the principal balance due.
I'm sure many homeowners will figure out how to game the process.
Posted on 11/20/08 at 10:33 am to mydadbeatupyourdad
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Wanna get married?
Part of the reason I'm pretty financially secure right now is because I'm not....so thanks, but no thanks LOL
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