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Bloomberg: Copper Mine Flashes Warning of ‘Huge Crisis’ for World Supply

Posted on 5/3/23 at 2:58 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 2:58 pm
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The transition to clean energy depends on copper, but a vast Mongolian mining project offers a glimpse of the metal’s troubled future.


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Oyu Tolgoi, in southern Mongolia just north of the Chinese border, is key to Rio’s efforts to move beyond its dependence on iron ore and expand in copper, the metal that underpins the clean energy transition. It’s also a vast deposit whose corporate, political and technical vicissitudes offer a glimpse of the red metal’s troubled future.

As demand for copper surges, supply is increasingly likely to come from mines like this one on the arid steppe: expensive, technically complex, outside traditional copper jurisdictions and operating under the eye of governments jealously guarding their natural resources.

“There’s a huge crisis,” says Doug Kirwin, one of the earliest geologists to work at the deposit that became Oyu Tolgoi
, or Turquoise Hill, named after the area’s rocks, stained by oxidized copper.

There’s no way we can supply the amount of copper in the next 10 years to drive the energy transition and carbon zero. It’s not going to happen,” adds Kirwin, now an independent consulting geologist. “There’s just not enough copper deposits being found or developed.”

Analysts at Wood Mackenzie estimate a greener world will be short about six million tons of copper by next decade, meaning 12 new Oyu Tolgois need to come online within that period.

But they aren’t — there are simply not enough new mines, much less enough large ones. The result is a gap: BloombergNEF estimates appetite for refined copper will grow by 53% by 2040, but mine supply will climb only 16%.

The world’s largest miners aren’t standing idly by. After more than a decade of repenting for the excess that followed the China-led boom in demand in the 2000s, deals are back, with green metals in buyers’ sights. The looming green metal shortfall has encouraged Glencore Plc’s move on Teck Resources Ltd, long a coveted copper target, and top gold miner Newmont Corp’s record bid for Australian peer Newcrest Mining Ltd, a deal that will add bullion but also copper to its production profile. BHP Group Ltd has just completed the acquisition of copper producer Oz Minerals, its largest deal in over a decade.

None of these, even if successful, will alter the overall global balance.

The problem now is that the next big deposits will require possibly more risk than most executives at the helm of large miners are willing to take. Even before that, it requires a significant increase in exploration spending.


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Greening the economy, expanding grids and renewable energy generation to hit global climate targets, however, requires many more Oyu Tolgois.

“Mongolia was an adventurous location. So was the Democratic Republic of Congo,” says Friedland. “But this has to be done. Absent this effort, there is absolutely no chance of an energy transition. It’s a fantasy.”


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But by all means, let’s use the iron fist of government to force less confidence and investment in oil & gas and petrochemicals.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 3:06 pm
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 2:59 pm to
msm magic and unicorn farts will fix it.

Somebody in some other thread really likes their EV!
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
7081 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:00 pm to
I don't see the issue. As long as unlimited electricity pours out of the walls of my house, no big deal.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16594 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:01 pm to
This is a much bigger problem for new construction than anything else.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3593 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:02 pm to
Climate change caused by man will one day be known as one of the biggest scams in the history of our existence. The green energy drive will bankrupt a lot of people and make those that can afford things still very poor. These people pushing this are scum.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3382 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:02 pm to
Any cooper in empty homes or abandoned structures has a way of getting back into the market.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by GaryPotter
Round about here
Member since Apr 2023
70 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:04 pm to
Meth heads and scrap yards stacked!

Art majors screwed, again.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29650 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:06 pm to
Oh hell yeah. Exciting to have another "crisis" to worry about!
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11584 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:06 pm to
I remember when these same fools got rid of paper grocery bags because plastic bags were going to save the planet. There are unintended consequences of every poor decision.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19069 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:12 pm to
It's not just copper. It's lithium, cobalt, graphite, etc. We won't have enough of any of them.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
4242 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:12 pm to
Chile finna eat
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
5863 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:22 pm to
Can we finally get rid of pennies now? You know, for the cause.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Randy The Ram
Member since Apr 2023
156 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by Randy The Ram
Member since Apr 2023
156 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:34 pm to
Pennies are mostly Zinc now with copper plating
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175759 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:35 pm to
Ripping the plumbing out of your walls for liquor money... is fricked
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58478 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:36 pm to
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It's not just copper. It's lithium, cobalt, graphite, etc. We won't have enough of any of them.

Whoa that’s crazy


We don’t need any of those. Give me a flip phone idgaf
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
2950 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:50 pm to
You saying I should buy copper futures?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19069 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:55 pm to
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Whoa that’s crazy


We don’t need any of those. Give me a flip phone idgaf




We're talking about the Green Transition. We don't have enough of the raw materials to make all of the batteries that we'd need.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62550 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:08 pm to
Francisco D’anconia need to get his arse to work.
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