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Posted on 4/10/23 at 3:38 pm
Posted by brentsura
Member since Feb 2022
214 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 3:38 pm
Interesting Podcast.

LINK
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
29704 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 3:40 pm to
it's an hour and 14 minutes long.
you care to maybe provide some highlights of those 74 minute?
Posted by brentsura
Member since Feb 2022
214 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 3:47 pm to
it's an hour and 14 minutes long.
you care to maybe provide some highlights of those 74 minute?

This link is not pointing out anything in particular it's just a different perspective on what is discussed on message board. Listen at your leisure.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40568 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:00 pm to
I follow them and interact with them pretty often on Twitter. They are legitimately big fans.

They typically try to stay pretty positive. But after the trade last year they were obsessed with "CJ CHANGED THE CULTURE" and they rolled with that big time. 1. CJ changed the culture. 2. Willie is one of the best coaches in the league. 3. New Orleans is a basketball city. That was their 3 things.

Now, it's hating on CJs shooting and basically Willie is a bad coach.

CJ is not my favorite player on the team. But I have a lot more respect for that dude now. He played 75 games, a lot of those injured, had a career high in 3's made, rebounds and assist. So are some bad shooting nights not worth the culture change that you loved not so long ago and career highs in stats? Fans need to lay off CJ big time. I'm sorry but he was one of the highlights of this team this year.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
4302 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:02 pm to
quote:


CJ is not my favorite player on the team. But I have a lot more respect for that dude now. He played 75 games, a lot of those injured, had a career high in 3's made, rebounds and assist. So are some bad shooting nights not worth the culture change that you loved not so long ago and career highs in stats? Fans need to lay off CJ big time. I'm sorry but he was one of the highlights of this team this year.



couldn't have said it better myself. CJ is pretty damn low on the list of concerns
Posted by Buck Dancer
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
4822 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:03 pm to
Yeah I’m still a fan of CJ. Considering he should be our 3rd or 4th option , not 1 or 2 like many games and he has played through a thumb injury on his shooting hand I think he has done just fine.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
30881 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:13 pm to
Here’s my problem. I don’t know if it’s BI, CJ or Willie. BI has been bonkers the last few weeks. He had 21 points in the first fricking quarter. Then in the third he barely touches the ball and we are running plays through point CJ and JV. They do this shite all the time. Give the ball to BI and get the frick out the way. I love CJ by the way.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
15768 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:13 pm to
The hate CJ gets is beyond odd. He definitely comes with his flaws but the way people talk about him is just idiotic. Someone said he was “horrible” this season.

21, 4, and 6 on 44% from the field and 39% from three for the season. Finished with career highs in total assists, rebounds, and threes made. People would have killed for a guard that could put up those numbers a little more than a year ago.

Just really weird what people hang their hats on.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
78382 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

The hate CJ gets is beyond odd.

People treat him like we traded for a superstar when really it was to be the 3rd guy except Zion barely plays.
Posted by VaeVictus
Member since Feb 2017
1795 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 4:54 pm to
Agree.

BI and Zion being made of glass is a bigger issue.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20666 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

Here’s my problem. I don’t know if it’s BI, CJ or Willie.


Aside from injuries, the single biggest problem that we had this season was the decline in the quality of play at center.

Jonas's Total RAPTOR score went from a +1.6 last season to a -2.3 this season. I know that people have their issues with impact metrics such as RAPTOR, but in this case, it's only telling us what we can already see with our own eyes.

The #1 priority for the team in the offseason is to acquire a new starting center. Nobody yell at me that Willie isn't using JV correctly, because we aren't firing Willie and we need a center that he WILL use correctly.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20638 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 5:05 pm to
Them old guys like CJ and Nance play through their injuries instead of missing 70% of their games over 4 years.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

CJ is not my favorite player on the team. But I have a lot more respect for that dude now. He played 75 games, a lot of those injured, had a career high in 3's made, rebounds and assist. So are some bad shooting nights not worth the culture change that you loved not so long ago and career highs in stats? Fans need to lay off CJ big time. I'm sorry but he was one of the highlights of this team this year.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112622 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

The hate CJ gets is beyond odd. He definitely comes with his flaws but the way people talk about him is just idiotic. Someone said he was “horrible” this season.

21, 4, and 6 on 44% from the field and 39% from three for the season. Finished with career highs in total assists, rebounds, and threes made. People would have killed for a guard that could put up those numbers a little more than a year ago.

Just really weird what people hang their hats on.
Low basketball IQ will do that to them.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7730 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 6:11 pm to
I give CJ too much grief. It's not CJ. It's Willie and how he's used.

ISO CJ is AIDs. That's on Willie. We should never run that.

My main complaints with CJ that are his fault are FTs and terrible turnovers at the worst times.
Posted by Tmcnair96
Member since Dec 2016
403 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 6:25 pm to
This team isn't where they are today without CJ, but at the same time CJ leaves a lot to be desired at times.

As far as the podcast goes, just started listening about a week ago. The guys are solid and make good points. The podcast last night ripped Willie for the lack of offensive sets. They felt like BI worked too hard trying to get loose from Ant Edward's, and Willie could've ran more stuff to free up BI. They feel like it's a crime that Trey only took 10 shots, and feels he's the 2nd best option on offense(I agree). They killed Willie for his rotations along with Jaron Collins who's in charge of subs. They believe that Jax and Kira deserve more minutes. Cj, Larry, and Josh all had the worst plus/minus against then twolves. Criticized Willie because the team does nothing well and felt like most of the success this season didn't come from anything he did but from the play of players.

Last night episode was initially suppose to give info on Zion but the lost took all of the time. For at least 3-4 episodes they've been hinting info on Zion but the most they hint at is that Zion himself wants to play.
Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat
The Garden
Member since May 2018
9395 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 6:38 pm to
Not really. They have some morons on that podcast
Posted by J_Hingle
LA
Member since Jun 2013
5382 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

BI and Zion being made of glass is a bigger issue.


This is the ONLY issue on this team.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20666 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Not really. They have some morons on that podcast



+1
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 4/10/23 at 7:02 pm to
Agreed. If you wanted to listen to some biased fans point out exactly what you already know then pro pels talk is for you.
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