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A few legal questions

Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
8205 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:10 pm
I'm no attorney.

What is illegal about paying hush money?

What crime is Trump accused of committing by this NY DA?

How is paying hush money different than a settlement with an NDA?
Posted by TuDog
Boston
Member since Jun 2005
4337 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:12 pm to
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What is illegal about paying hush money?

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What crime is Trump accused of committing by this NY DA?

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How is paying hush money different than a settlement with an NDA?

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This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
13092 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:13 pm to
Forget about the law Trump can’t do it but Brandon and Hunter can do all things illegal and it’s Ok
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51444 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:16 pm to
It's not illegal....some would say it's unethical. In the case of Trump one would think paying hush money would endear Trump to the corrupt DC Swamp Skunks....most of them are more compromised than anything Trump has ever done.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33485 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:17 pm to
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What is illegal about paying hush money?

Nothing.
quote:

What crime is Trump accused of committing by this NY DA?

Probably undisclosed or excessive campaign contributions, and/or falsifying business records.

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How is paying hush money different than a settlement with an NDA?

It isn’t. The mere payment from Cohen to Daniels alone won’t be the basis of the indictment, if in fact it’s the NY case that’s going forward. It’ll be the Trump Organization’s payments to Cohen and how those payments were accounted for in the Org’s books.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
4101 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:18 pm to
It’s not a legal question. It’s a political question.

Hoax
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
150873 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:19 pm to
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I'm no attorney
I still don't understand why Martha Stewart went to jail

Yeah I know she's a bitch, but what did she do that anyone else wouldn't do
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131258 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

What is illegal about paying hush money?

What crime is Trump accused of committing by this NY DA?

How is paying hush money different than a settlement with an NDA?

They're claiming he used campaign money .... of course Trump was the money
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
12925 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:22 pm to
She did a LOT less that Hunter.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33485 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:25 pm to
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They're claiming he used campaign money .... of course Trump was the money

My understand is that they aren’t alleging that Trump Org used campaign funds, but that the payments (and more accurately the “hushing” that the payments provided) constituted a campaign contribution in excess of the personal limit.

The legal explanations I have seen are nuanced and all seem like total bullshite though, so I could be wrong.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 4:28 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131258 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:26 pm to
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I still don't understand why Martha Stewart went to jail
She traded off of inside information. That's why Pelosi, Burr, and Feinstein are in jail.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131258 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:56 pm to
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The legal explanations I have seen are nuanced and all seem like total bullshite though, so I could be wrong.

Unfortunately no, you're not wrong. This is Lawfare at work.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33485 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:58 pm to
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Unfortunately no, you're not wrong.

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NC_Tigah

Pigs fly! This may be my sig quote

In seriousness though, the NY charges are total fricking bullshite if they come to fruition. The records charges are a damn misdemeanor…. and 6 years old at that.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
33175 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:59 pm to
A misdemeanor level offense of that nature is what’s most likely on the table, as I understand it. If anything, of course.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59957 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

She traded off of inside information.


No, she went to jail for obstruction of justice.

She settled a civil case with the SEC for the insider trading.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53224 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:12 pm to
Trump was surreptitiously recorded by his own lawyer discussing the payoff. Trump clearly told his lawyer to make sure any payment was “on the up and up”. This is just weaponizing government agencies for political purposes. Many here will applaud it.
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5671 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:28 pm to
Congress pays hush money to congressional victims all the time.
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5671 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:32 pm to
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Trump clearly told his lawyer to make sure any payment was “on the up and up”.

Wouldn’t that information be privileged info?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76888 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:41 pm to

Wasn't there a list of congressmen who paid hush money that 'me too' exposed?
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
25032 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:43 pm to
And I would that by having the insider information, she willfully swindled the people to whom she sold her stock. She was also on the board of the NYSE, so she should be setting an example.
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