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re: Judge who OK'd lowering bar on Cantrell recall signed the petition, didn't disclose it

Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120796 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:48 pm to
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Recalls never work


Gray Davis says sup
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26188 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:31 pm to
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wouldnt q judge that didnt sign it be in a similar predicament if they ruled against it?

well at least the same argument could be made.



Not nearly as much of an issue if at all. Signing is an actual act that indicates the position of a signatory. The lack of signing does not indicate an inclination either way.

The federal hurdle for a judge and bias re recusal is from Aetna Life vs (someone) and requires the probability of actual bias of the judge is too high to be constitutionally tolerable. I assume LA has similar case law. A lack of signature on the recall by itself would not be nearly strong enough to rise to intolerable bias. Even if you had proof they were offered and chose not to sign unless they overtly indicated the reason to not sign was that they were against the recall it is not proof of bias.

Signing is indeed an issue, not signing by itself is a non-issue.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71802 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:42 pm to
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Even if you had proof they were offered and chose not to sign unless they overtly indicated the reason to not sign was that they were against the recall it is not proof of bias.

Signing is indeed an issue, not signing by itself is a non-issue.


Good points.

On the other hand, judges routinely issue rulings on election issues, and they usually voted in that election. So they presumably have a bias even if we don't know what the bias is.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49050 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:57 pm to
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Signing is indeed an issue


Nah.
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4970 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:02 pm to
Does Latoya have the financial means to fight it if she wanted to? She had $6k in her campaign account at last report and seems like nearly everyone with money and/or power has abandoned her. Would the Sec of State challenge it?
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5354 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:13 pm to
WITCH HUNT! Bullies!
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12776 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:13 pm to
Why should this be any different from her exercising her right to vote?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26188 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:15 pm to
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Nah.


You don't want it to be and I get that. It certainly is arguable that it is because it is a clear indication of the position a judge holds. Does it rise to the level of constitutionally intolerable bias, that is not for either of us to decide, I personally see the legal argument as being stronger that it is an issue.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79672 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:49 pm to
So is the left insisting this judge has a bias?

Can we do the same thing with their side?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49050 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:56 pm to
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You don't want it to be and I get that.


I don’t live anywhere near New Orleans and couldn’t care less who is their mayor. A judge signing a petition does not rise to the level of proving bias. That’s all.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 8:57 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114236 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:57 pm to
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which in itself says a lot coming from SuperSaint.



You and him need to just go ahead and bang it out.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10649 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:03 pm to
To think that voters have had 3 chances and Latoya continues to suck the decency out of the city really makes you wonder if there can ever be hope for the city that care forgot

Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3001 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:12 pm to


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Good. Don't ruin the recall local media. Focus on the disaster that is the DAs office.



... yeah --- Morris "one call that's all" Bart ...

conflict of interest much?


Posted by Tall Tiger
Dixie
Member since Sep 2007
3324 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:18 pm to
I don't think much will come of this. They can file a motion to recuse if they want to, but I don't think it will satisfy any of the grounds.

I remember her father Lloyd Medley at CDC. That was a tough rule day.

She is the one who ousted Chris Bruno.
Posted by El Es Shu
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
611 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:22 pm to
If this were favorable to the Destroya the OT would be calling for the judge to be fired!
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3001 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:06 pm to


... yesterday there was a report on WVUE chan8 --- Cantrell's FAVORITE news station BTW

about an attempt to reinstate officer Vapie to LaToya's security detail after he was removed concerning an investigation into unethical behavior.

LINK

quote:

Zurik: Vappie’s return to Mayor Cantrell’s protection detail scuttled, NOPD federal monitor says




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News

Live

Zurik: Vappie’s return to Mayor Cantrell’s protection detail scuttled, NOPD federal monitor says



By Ken Daley and Lee Zurik

Published: Mar. 7, 2023 at 10:25 PM CST|Updated: 24 hours ago

NEW ORLEANS (WVUE) - The federal monitor overseeing the New Orleans Police Department consent decree said Tuesday (March 7) he blocked an attempt in December to have Officer Jeffrey Vappie reinstated to Mayor LaToya Cantrell’s executive protection detail while still under internal police investigation.

Jonathan Aronie, the Washington DC-based attorney and lead monitor of the NOPD’s consent decree, made the revelation in response to a Fox 8 question submitted for a public hearing on the NOPD’s compliance progress.

“Yes, there was an effort to put Officer Vappie back on the mayor’s executive protection team, prior to the completion of the PIB (Public Integrity Bureau) investigation,” Aronie said. “When the monitoring team found out about it, we reached out to multiple members of the NOPD leadership team, who quickly and effectively quashed that effort.”





... pitbullied ...


This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7766 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:36 pm to
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Vappie back on the mayor’s executive protection team, prior to the completion of the PIB (Public Integrity Bureau) investigation,”



I think Zurik credited the wrong agency within NOPD. PIB should be PIIHB. Put It In Her Butt Division.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
3001 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:47 pm to


... could be party of the first part misses that boy toy a lot ...

... and party of the second part misses the money a lot ...


Posted by Klondikekajun
Member since Jun 2020
1304 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 2:13 am to
Using her own tactics against her...
Posted by Stamps74
Member since Nov 2017
645 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 5:23 am to
Certain jobs / positions should be beyond reproach
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