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re: Negatives of owning a Tesla?

Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by HodsonTiger13
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:31 pm to
Good as a second 'around town car' and you're helping Elon buy various social media platforms.

Posted by Bard
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Negatives of owning a Tesla?


There are a lot of negatives in owning any EV as the technology isn't where people want to propone it as being.

If you're going to use this only for travel of under 200 miles (round trip, unless you're spending the night) then it might be a great match for you. Other than that, it may not be a good fit.

The max range listed for EVs is generally under optimal conditions (~65-70 degrees, flat surface, no headwinds, not heavy loads, etc). The further you move from those conditions, the more your range drops (people in colder areas up north are seeing their range drop significantly). If you're going to take road trips, you have to plan out charge time and figure that into your travel time (even with the fastest Tesla chargers you're still going to be looking at ~15 minutes for 200 miles of charge). Tesla is very on-the-ball with keeping their chargers up and running though, so IF you go this route then always try to use Tesla chargers (and Tesla chargers are free to Tesla owners).
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:31 pm to
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but a guy I know has one and he said the interior components feel cheap to him.

Definitely. It's not a high quality car. The money is in the tech. Other than that i'd call it slightly below average.
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He said they also burn through tires a lot quicker than gas cars, I guess because they’re heavier.


I've heard this but never seen it. A Model 3 and BMW 3 series are about the same weight. Newer cars are all heavy pigs.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:31 pm to
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Seriously, IMO just a technology that's not quite ready for primetime, costs not withstanding.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Tesla chargers are free to Tesla owners

No they aren't

Some early adopters have free supercharging but they're even offering to buy people out of those now. Everyone else has to pay for consumption.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:33 pm to
A negative is you are sitting on a giant battery that has a magnetic field that affects your nads resulting in really messed up offspring or testicular and butt cancers if you are older.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Supravol22
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:34 pm to
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I've heard this but never seen it. A Model 3 and BMW 3 series are about the same weight. Newer cars are all heavy pigs.



It's the instant torque, at least from my experience. Wears them a bit quicker on factory tires but once you get a replacement set, they last longer than the sticky factory tires
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:34 pm to
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Enjoy having to scroll through touchscreen menus to change the temp, vents, literally anything


Not true. There are quick access functions to most of these. I was concerned with this but it’s as easy if not easier than the manual ICE functions.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:36 pm to
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He said they also burn through tires a lot quicker than gas cars,
And you can’t replace them with regular tires.

You are screwed with contra-flow hurricane evacuations when it dies.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:37 pm to
One benefit of owning an electric car is that you don't have to get gas at gas stations alongside everyday weirdos.
Posted by Cymry Teigr
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:37 pm to
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I wouldn't want one because I drive 30K miles a year and I'd be fricked trying to charge it all the time.



Why do you think driving an average of 82 miles a day would make owning an EV more of a hassle than an ICE? If anything you'd save time from not having to drive to the gas station every 2-3 days while charging your EV at night when it doesn't affect your time at all.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:38 pm to
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It's the instant torque, at least from my experience. Wears them a bit quicker on factory tires but once you get a replacement set, they last longer than the sticky factory tires

That makes more sense than the weight. That argument just never sat right with me. Probably some side wall structural deterioration as well from max torque off the line.
Posted by AUFANATL
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:38 pm to
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In this thread will be a lot of country folk who can't understand why anyone would want an EV. They can't wrap their mind around the fact that people who live in the city may never drive more than 30 miles at once


That's true but a lot of people who live "in the city" are in apartments with street parking or parking decks and don't have a charge station to access or a garage with an outlet. Which means they have to go find a dealership when battery runs low and stand around and wait.

Teslas are geared towards the upscale suburban crowd - people with a garage to park in and charge up with a reasonable commute to work and enough disposable income to fly to rent an SUV when it's time to take a family vacation.
Posted by Bronc
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:38 pm to
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Worthless for trips.





Depends on the trip.

If you are driving from Louisiana to Colorado, yeah, it's gonna add some time and planning. Or just rent a ICE car, or buy a plane ticket.

Go from New Orleans to Orange Beach? or Baton Rouge to Houston? You don't even really need the longer battery.


Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Negatives of owning a Tesla?
Having to tell your parents that you're gay.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12872 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:42 pm to
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Go from New Orleans to Orange Beach? or Baton Rouge to Houston? You don't even really need the longer battery.

Houston to San Antonio is awesome in a Tesla. We go there a lot to see family. Autopilot, don't really need to but hit the halfway supercharger for a bathroom break and some snacks. It's so much more pleasant than when we take my SUV.
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:42 pm to
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You are screwed with contra-flow hurricane evacuations when it dies.



How so? Is there no way to charge the Tesla within 280 miles from the city? This is simply untrue.

The issue with hurricanes will be in returning to town with mass power outages, not in evacuating.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:43 pm to
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You are screwed with contra-flow hurricane evacuations when it dies.

This is what a fundamental misunderstanding of EV and ICE looks like.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Supravol22
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:44 pm to
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And you can’t replace them with regular tires.


Yes, you can...
Posted by ronniep1
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:46 pm to
Battery life, and replacement cost, would be major questions for me as well.

Based on the average number of miles you drive per year, and the way you drive, how long should the battery last?

Are there any long term Tesla owners who can speak to how the car did, or didn't, age and "hold up" over say, 5 years?

If the car does hold up well, do you think you'd be willing to spend $20,000 or more for a new battery pack when the first one wears out?

If the "next big breakthrough" is made, and EV's develop both the range and refueling times of their gas sipping cousins, will that technology be available to your car? If no, will your value be diminished?

For what one opinion is worth, I think EV's are still in the "early adopters" phase of their development. They're nice, but expensive, and future models will probably offer more (range, features, etc) for less money. Early adopters pay a price for embracing something new, but without them, the later models that a majority of people come to embrace would never be developed.

With that said, an EV is not for me, or at least not yet. I will, though, try to keep an open mind as the technology continues to develop.
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