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Are the storms really that big? Can the cost be blamed on man?

Posted on 2/22/23 at 6:55 am
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17534 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 6:55 am
100 years ago there was far less development on our coastlines and cities were less populated. The financial cost and death rate of a big storm at that time was far less.

Is the cost and death toll from storms today due to the storm intensity or extensive coastal development and very populated cities?
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1990 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:04 am to
They’re not getting more deadly or powerful.

The deadliest natural disaster in US history occurred over a century ago in Galveston.
Posted by lsudocts
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2015
292 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:08 am to
Pay attention to where the rich and powerful live.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32315 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:11 am to
exactly.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25839 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:13 am to
The storms aren’t worse it’s our modern comforts that are expensive to repair. Our ancestors didn’t have home insurance and more than likely they built that cypress shotgun by hand. I have seen some with trap doors to let flood waters enter the house so that the house is less likely to be carried away
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6314 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:14 am to
I read some article yesterday about how there is an exodus from the Keys because of the strength of hurricanes being greater and the sea level change.
It was a bunch of crap and lots of the same statements repeated by the greenies with climate change creating more power storms with more water, rising sea levels, and this stuff is never backed up with data.
They can't back the data up, so they just keep repeating it everywhere so it becomes "truth".

One interview in the article was an older couple that was moving to NC mountains because they were to old to rebuild again. So it implies they have had to rebuild before but it is age that has pushed them to the mountains. So you can't blame that person exiting on climate change.
Posted by Dtybur
Member since Aug 2021
45 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:20 am to
Regardless of the intensity, or human causation, we will adapt or perish. Unless we live under a bubble, we can't do shite about it. Human hubris on parade. Stop climate change! Let's stop being so smug!
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21436 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:27 am to
Let me say this about that. I have a house in the lower Keys, and the only exodus here is millions of dollars being spent on new construction of waterfront homes. I am amazed at the money coming in and the extravagance of the houses being built.

The price of existing houses being sold is sky high so there are still a good number of folks that want to be here. Also the amount of building permits are fixed and will drive prices higher for those who can afford new construction. But people are still buying.

Irma chased some away but that has been replenished. Now the amount of normal folks like myself are finding the price of common goods damn high right now. Tourism is booming and they don’t really care how expensive restaurants are and spend money like it’s going out of style.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56116 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:29 am to
Here's a list of the 30 deadliest hurricanes in the U.S. I see no cause for alarm considering the number of people who choose to put themselves in harm's way.

LINK
Posted by AUauditor
Georgia
Member since Sep 2004
1662 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:39 am to
The American Indians were smart enough not to live on the coast...with a view.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22898 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:42 am to
Do you believe the climate change nonsense?
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:48 am to
Check out all the islands in Miami, where all the rich build. Fisher Island in particular.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9612 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:04 am to


Check out the Kranenkawas.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51974 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Our ancestors didn’t have home insurance and more than likely they built that cypress shotgun by hand.

And when it flooded all they had to do was sweep it out, because there was no carpet and no insulation or dry wall.
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2165 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:26 am to
The Galveston disaster was not only due to a storm, but lack of ability to track the storm. They lost it after it passed the Caribbean’s and an idiot meteorologist gave the warnings no mind. Galveston had no idea it was heading to them until to late. Communication was also poor. During the aftermath resources were slow to arrive due to not being able let people know. Transportation was a limiting factor. The storm knocked out rail cars, roads, etc. another factor was lack of ownership between local, state, and federal governments. Lots of finger pointing. All this to say I don’t believe the Galveston hurricane to be an appropriate barometer to determine the power of hurricanes.

Edit: forgot about lack of building codes…
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 8:27 am
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18766 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:34 am to
This is what the morons don’t realize or choose to ignore. The more we build on the coast, the worse the damage will get.
Another undeniable thing is that we are technically still in an ice age and coming out of it. The climate is actually pretty mild compared to previous eras.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141389 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 8:38 am to
Isn't Sea Level always at Sea Level?

But if Sea Level was rising, wouldn't we be able to see it somewhere like the Dry Tortugas?

Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24350 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:04 am to
Climate-related deaths are down by 98% over the last century, due to the benefits of fossil fuels.

Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
2707 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:27 am to
Every year there are about two really bad storms. When these make make landfall, all you hear about is climate change. When the other dozen or occur, none of this is brought up. Hurricane Betsy and Camille were two of the nastiest storms that impacted my family and people I know, and no one talked about climate change back then. If those two storms would happen today, that’s all you would be hearing about.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116688 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 11:54 am to
When I was a kid there was no such thing as a 'named storm.'
The only thing with a name was a real hurricane. Not 'an almost hurricane.'
What is the purpose of putting names on non-hurricane storms unless it's to scare people into thinking there are way more hurricanes out there than before.
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