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re: Official Louisiana High School Baseball Mega-Thread 2023
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:23 am to chalmetteowl
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:23 am to chalmetteowl
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Not only that, the final date for Mississippi baseball is June 2 and in Texas I think it’s June 10. It’s May 13 in LA
True, but to be fair, many parts of Texas are still in school in early June and don’t go back until the week before or after Labor Day. I think all of LA is done before Memorial Day.
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:56 am to Tigerfan1274
Graduation for WM is always the day of the semifinals. They hold a baseball graduation on the field the Tuesday prior.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 10:57 am to Tigerfan1274
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many parts of Texas are still in school in early June and don’t go back until the week before or after Labor Day.
Maybe they have the right idea not going back to school in the heart of hurricane season…
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:11 am to nicholastiger
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It was much better in Hammond last year for select teams
Where’d they play? HHS?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 11:45 am to Mr. Hangover
Southeastern
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:00 pm to chalmetteowl
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Not only that, the final date for Mississippi baseball is June 2 and in Texas I think it’s June 10. It’s May 13 in LA
In Georgia, finals are May 16-24. Four sites- Coolray Field (Gwinnett Stripers), Truist Park (Atlanta Braves), AdventHealth Stadium (Rome Braves), and JI Clements Field (GA Southern University).
All rounds of playoffs are best 2/3 in Georgia.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:08 pm to HottyToddy7
the 5A tourney used to be double elimination over two days which was absolutely ridiculous for pitching
teams were starting their ace game 1 on fri and bringing him back in finals on a sat likely in relief
That was primary reason for change to make it single elimination semifinals and then a final
teams were starting their ace game 1 on fri and bringing him back in finals on a sat likely in relief
That was primary reason for change to make it single elimination semifinals and then a final
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:11 pm to nicholastiger
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the 5A tourney used to be double elimination over two days which was absolutely ridiculous for pitching teams were starting their ace game 1 on fri and bringing him back in finals on a sat likely in relief That was primary reason for change to make it single elimination semifinals and then a final
Were there pitching rest rules back then?
How would you have double elimination in two days with no team playing more than 2 games in a day?
The first state tournaments I remember were 8 teams, with quarterfinals on day 1, semis at daytime of day 2, and the championship at night of day 2
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:12 pm to nicholastiger
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the 5A tourney used to be double elimination over two days which was absolutely ridiculous for pitching
teams were starting their ace game 1 on fri and bringing him back in finals on a sat likely in relief
That was primary reason for change to make it single elimination semifinals and then a final
they need to extend the season a week. have the semi finals at home sites 2/3. the next week at sulphur or whereever, 2/3 over 2 days.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:13 pm to chalmetteowl
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Maybe they have the right idea not going back to school in the heart of hurricane season…
Used to common in South La. long ago as well. This was done so that kids could help with the rice harvest that occurs in August. By the time I got out of school, we were going back in mid to early August. So freaking hot.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 1:56 pm to chalmetteowl
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many parts of Texas are still in school in early June and don’t go back until the week before or after Labor Day.
Most texas schools start in the august 17-22 range
Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:01 pm to nicholastiger
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the 5A tourney used to be double elimination over two days which was absolutely ridiculous for pitching teams were starting their ace game 1 on fri and bringing him back in finals on a sat likely in relief That was primary reason for change to make it single elimination semifinals and then a final
This is incorrect.
5A was quarterfinals one day and semifinals and championship the next day.
Single elimination was the format. The winning team would play three games in two days.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:59 am to SLULions
games are about to start here in a few min. can watch on nfhs. div 5 today mainly until 5pm when Div iV Non select plays
schedule
LINK to watch
schedule
LINK to watch
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:07 am to chalmetteowl
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quote:the 5A tourney used to be double elimination over two days which was absolutely ridiculous for pitching teams were starting their ace game 1 on fri and bringing him back in finals on a sat likely in relief That was primary reason for change to make it single elimination semifinals and then a final Were there pitching rest rules back then? How would you have double elimination in two days with no team playing more than 2 games in a day? The first state tournaments I remember were 8 teams, with quarterfinals on day 1, semis at daytime of day 2, and the championship at night of day 2
No pitching rules in La until the rummel Jesuit debacle.
The 5A tourney was never double elimination
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:28 am to choupiquesushi
The cautionary tale of Ryan Dorion:
Doiron pitched eighteen innings over a day and a half in the 2008 5A State tournament. Because of this, Jones says he won't be recruiting players at Barbe anymore.
Barbe head coach Glenn Cecchini then spoke to 7Sports and gave his side of the story. Cecchini says while it was a risk to pitch Doiron, he consulted Doiron's parents and Doiron himself about the increased workload. Cecchini claims everyone was OK with the amount of innings and everyone was on the same page.
Doiron pitched eighteen innings over a day and a half in the 2008 5A State tournament. Because of this, Jones says he won't be recruiting players at Barbe anymore.
Barbe head coach Glenn Cecchini then spoke to 7Sports and gave his side of the story. Cecchini says while it was a risk to pitch Doiron, he consulted Doiron's parents and Doiron himself about the increased workload. Cecchini claims everyone was OK with the amount of innings and everyone was on the same page.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:32 am to NewBR
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Because of this, Jones says he won't be recruiting players at Barbe anymore.
And after that, Rick Jones was never the same again
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:34 am to chalmetteowl
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And after that, Rick Jones was never the same again
exactly...how did that work out for him?
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:34 am to chalmetteowl
It's worth noting that nowadays Barbe always develops enough high end pitching talent that they don't have to rely on throwing one guy all the time.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:40 am to ProjectP2294
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It's worth noting that nowadays Barbe always develops enough high end pitching talent that they don't have to rely on throwing one guy all the time.
yep, so do couple other schools around here.
i wouldnt let my kid throw that much in a million years, not worth chancing it.
Posted on 5/9/23 at 11:47 am to lsu777
couple people have asked how the hell SWLA can be producing so much talent with 3 teams in the maxpreps top 12 and 8 teams in the semis, here is the reponse i wrote on the recruiting board to that question
couple reasons
1) unlike a lot of the rest of the state, there is a big emphasis on it, but in tournament ball most kids are still almost forced to play football and other sports and do not specialize until high school
2) emphasis on extreme hard work around here when it comes to baseball. kids see the tradition at barbe, sam houston, sulphur, st louis and the smaller powers and they see what it takes. they start hanging around the programs early and they see the dedication so they start doing it.
3) because of the above, kids train year around for it. notice i didnt say play year around as the travel teams in SWLA tend to play less overall games than many other areas but tend to train and practice more. lot more emphasis on training than playing
4) because these kids see what it takes many start strength and conditioning early, very early with many starting at 7 & 8 even. they also work around the house a lot and see how big they actually need to be.
for a metro area of 250k its insance. 6 teams from calc parish in the semi plus kinder and south beau. over 20 d1 prospects and prolyl another 25 going to play juco or d2/d3.
also prolly the biggest factors is awesome coaching. Barbe, St Louis and Sam Houston have amazign coaching. these coaches understand the importance of the off season and run year around weight lifting, they run off season velo/long toss programs, run bat speed programs etc etc. there is a huge focus on development and its tracked. all the schools above have their own pitching coach, own hitting coach and coaches that really really beleive in the weights. look at the size of many of the kids compared to other schools. its very very evident when st louis plays, only stm was as big really. in 5a less so once you are deep in playoffs but district games....very obvious.
so combo of things...high level coaching, elite work ethic and tradition/passion for the game.
oh and the 3 are within 10 miles of each other and st louis is within that 10 mile radius too.
in the end if your school is not runnign year around lifting, giving off season programs and using tech to track things like velo, exit velo, 60 times and long toss distance than you are falling behind. I will be honest all of the schools around here have very sub optimal lifitng programming but consistency wins out of optimal every time. and thats what these programs have. kids dream of going there, see what it takes and are starting down that journey earlier and earlier.
lately there have been some out of state kids moving into, not at barbe or st louis but sam houston has had a few coming from setx area, specifically for baseball.
couple reasons
1) unlike a lot of the rest of the state, there is a big emphasis on it, but in tournament ball most kids are still almost forced to play football and other sports and do not specialize until high school
2) emphasis on extreme hard work around here when it comes to baseball. kids see the tradition at barbe, sam houston, sulphur, st louis and the smaller powers and they see what it takes. they start hanging around the programs early and they see the dedication so they start doing it.
3) because of the above, kids train year around for it. notice i didnt say play year around as the travel teams in SWLA tend to play less overall games than many other areas but tend to train and practice more. lot more emphasis on training than playing
4) because these kids see what it takes many start strength and conditioning early, very early with many starting at 7 & 8 even. they also work around the house a lot and see how big they actually need to be.
for a metro area of 250k its insance. 6 teams from calc parish in the semi plus kinder and south beau. over 20 d1 prospects and prolyl another 25 going to play juco or d2/d3.
also prolly the biggest factors is awesome coaching. Barbe, St Louis and Sam Houston have amazign coaching. these coaches understand the importance of the off season and run year around weight lifting, they run off season velo/long toss programs, run bat speed programs etc etc. there is a huge focus on development and its tracked. all the schools above have their own pitching coach, own hitting coach and coaches that really really beleive in the weights. look at the size of many of the kids compared to other schools. its very very evident when st louis plays, only stm was as big really. in 5a less so once you are deep in playoffs but district games....very obvious.
so combo of things...high level coaching, elite work ethic and tradition/passion for the game.
oh and the 3 are within 10 miles of each other and st louis is within that 10 mile radius too.
in the end if your school is not runnign year around lifting, giving off season programs and using tech to track things like velo, exit velo, 60 times and long toss distance than you are falling behind. I will be honest all of the schools around here have very sub optimal lifitng programming but consistency wins out of optimal every time. and thats what these programs have. kids dream of going there, see what it takes and are starting down that journey earlier and earlier.
lately there have been some out of state kids moving into, not at barbe or st louis but sam houston has had a few coming from setx area, specifically for baseball.
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