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re: Virginia Donors Demand $3.6 Billion From University for Removing Ancestor’s Name
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:27 pm to ned nederlander
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:27 pm to ned nederlander
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:28 pm to conservativewifeymom
Go for it Williams family!
Make a stink and don't let up!
Make a stink and don't let up!
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:30 pm to conservativewifeymom
Lol they won’t get a fricking dime. All this does is make it easier for U of R to distance themselves from that family. They have NO leverage, they’ll never get anything.
No I take that back, they’ll get it once they repay all the descendants of their slaves for their stolen wages/labor, with interest of course…..sooo never.
No I take that back, they’ll get it once they repay all the descendants of their slaves for their stolen wages/labor, with interest of course…..sooo never.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:32 pm to TigerIron
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Say, what's your position on reparations?
I think it’s a terrible idea.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:32 pm to TigerIron
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Say, what's your position on reparations?
I suspect that just about everybody descended from someone who was a slave at some time
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:33 pm to mwade91383
You people love this stupid cancel shite.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:34 pm to mwade91383
quote:there is a major difference. This is a wealthy family, with extensive records of births, deaths and probate proceedings. They will have absolutely zero difficulty whatsoever establishing standing as direct descendants of the donor. Obviously, the donee/institution is easy enough to identify.
No I take that back, they’ll get it once they repay all the descendants of their slaves for their stolen wages/labor, with interest of course…..
By contrast, how many American blacks today can trace their lineage back to even one specific former slave. If they are able to do so, what are the chances that they are able to identify the former owner of that slave? Lastly, assuming that they are able to do that, what are the chances that they will be able to find a wealthy descendent of that former slave owner and what are the chances that such defendant is a member of this particular family?
You do not establish standing by asserting “well, I am a Black man, and I do live in America, so I am probably descended from slaves, and it’s entirely possible that maybe (just maybe) my ancestor was owned by this family.“
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:34 pm to LuckyTiger
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Yea they’ll lose because a lot of colleges and other organizations will cease to exist if they have to give back after canceling someone.
and this would be a bad thing how?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:35 pm to roadGator
More like indifference. I live in VA, it’s happening all over the place. Statues, schools, streets, buildings.
They just can’t force me to care.
They just can’t force me to care.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:37 pm to conservativewifeymom
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if the family name is no longer good enough for the university, neither are family’s financial contributions.
I mean it’s a fair point. If they acknowledge his part in slavery, they acknowledge that they built their school on slave money.
$3.6B is a lot of money, that’s not some token donation. That’s significant operational support even over 200 years.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:37 pm to AggieHank86
That’s a lot of words to avoid acknowledging the painfully obvious that neither hypothetical will ever happen.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:37 pm to LuckyTiger
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Yea they’ll lose
because a lot of colleges and other organizations will cease to exist if they have to give back after canceling someone.
I’m all for it.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:39 pm to mwade91383
You are indifferent because you aren’t a Virginian just a radical leftist transplant.
Likely in NOVA where all the commies are.
Likely in NOVA where all the commies are.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:41 pm to ned nederlander
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Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:44 pm to the808bass
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Donors have very limited rights when it comes to charitable donations.
That’s not exactly accurate but it’s doubtful that $3.6B in donations would have clearly articulated and documented restrictions that could be tied to payments. And if he got anything in return for these donations, deductibility of those donations could perhaps be questioned.
I’m other words, I agree with you that legitimately challenging this would be a shitshow.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:51 pm to TigerIron
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Agreed. I doubt the people who cancelled the donor's ancestor do, though.
No doubt. My main point is Mr. Smith simply sounds like an insufferable, entitled tool and ironically that is the calling card of the woke.
From a Richmond times dispatch article in this kerfuffle.
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“By the way, this is the South, when you dishonor generations of someone’s family, you basically have started a nuclear war.”
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:56 pm to OceanMan
The U of R only has 6% black enrollment.
Without weak radicals this never happens
It’s pussy liberals as usual.
Without weak radicals this never happens
It’s pussy liberals as usual.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:16 pm to ned nederlander
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No doubt. My main point is Mr. Smith simply sounds like an insufferable, entitled tool and ironically that is the calling card of the woke.
You just can’t imagine this happening to you. This school is likely a huge part of their lives.
This family has donated to and attended the school for hundreds of years. Many of those donations, if not most, were induced by the fact that the family name was on the sides of buildings. Most of the donations occurred after abolishment (implicitly stated in the article).
They kept taking the money for centuries. Dismissing this story because this guy comes from a wealthy family is lame. It actually illustrates a very interesting paradox that one would have to assume will become more common: if the name is rooted in racism and must be thrown out, what about the cash?how can you have it both ways? Maybe the cash doesn’t go back to the family but how does the school get to keep it?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:21 pm to the808bass
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They’ll most likely lose
Unless there was an agreement that the donations were being made as long as the law school had his name. If that's so then removing his name is breech of contract and all bets are off.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:22 pm to conservativewifeymom
I hope they get every penny.
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