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Varsity Blues question: Why did Moxon take the key players out the night before a game??
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:38 pm
OK, so Lance was coming along, too, but couldn't they wait til Friday or Saturday night??
I never understood this entire plot point other than it's just a good way to get the stripper/teacher angle in the movie and make it a way to create more tension in the film, but the scene itself and story point makes absolutely no sense at all.
Moxon, who was supposed to be intelligent, made stupid move after stupid move in the film, just like kissing Darby in the middle of the fricking hallway with 200 ppl around.
I guess Kilmer was right after all...
I never understood this entire plot point other than it's just a good way to get the stripper/teacher angle in the movie and make it a way to create more tension in the film, but the scene itself and story point makes absolutely no sense at all.
Moxon, who was supposed to be intelligent, made stupid move after stupid move in the film, just like kissing Darby in the middle of the fricking hallway with 200 ppl around.
I guess Kilmer was right after all...
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 9:39 pm
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 9:52 pm to Jack Ruby
Kilmer was 100% spot on with his perception of Mox. He didn’t give a shite, outwardly, and that’s a bad link to have on a team like that. Mox saved his own arse when Lance got hurt by actually having talent and being good. But even through to the end he didn’t care about football. “Let’s play the next 24 minutes for the next 24 minutes” (or whatever). He knew that would be the last time he played football.
He just didn’t comprehend how/why some people cared about football above everything else. Which is why he didn’t understand why somebody like Billy Bob cares so much. That one scene when BB was hammered and shooting his trophies is SO frickING GOOD. The whole “I do! I care. Coach loved me like a son, and treated me like one too” is pretty deep in an otherwise non-serious football movie. And it shows exactly why Mox was subpar in the leader department.
Him taking his buddies out the night before the game is just further evidence of that. He didn’t care if they got shitfaced and played like shite.
The hot for teacher moment was just a bonus (and a great one
).
He just didn’t comprehend how/why some people cared about football above everything else. Which is why he didn’t understand why somebody like Billy Bob cares so much. That one scene when BB was hammered and shooting his trophies is SO frickING GOOD. The whole “I do! I care. Coach loved me like a son, and treated me like one too” is pretty deep in an otherwise non-serious football movie. And it shows exactly why Mox was subpar in the leader department.
Him taking his buddies out the night before the game is just further evidence of that. He didn’t care if they got shitfaced and played like shite.
The hot for teacher moment was just a bonus (and a great one
). This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 11:35 am
Posted on 2/14/23 at 10:39 pm to CocomoLSU
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Him taking his buddies out the night before the game is just further evidence of that. He didn’t care if they got shitfaced and played like shite.
Agreed. You do that after a game. Not before.
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The hot for teacher moment was just a bonus (and a great one
I probably wouldn't have left either. She and the rest of her crew were hot AF.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:57 pm to Jack Ruby
Mox was smart, and shrewd. Him taking the guys out the night before was a play to show Kilmer how fragile his world (team) was and how easily he could destroy it, even to the detriment of the team and the players (his “friends”). It was the ultimate power play that put Mox on a collision course with Kilmer and hence his teammates’ futures. Moxon was a narcissist manipulator.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:28 am to Havoc
Highschool kids are stupid. Atleast when I look back at it we all were in my group.
We thought life was hard when it really wasn’t, we partied when we could, and the group did things spotaneously.
You can’t look at it so deeply. Just reflect back on the whole stupidity of the highschool mind growing up and it all makes sense.
The players probably thoght they were invincible and that it wouldnt matter if they went out on a Thursday. I am sure Friday was a bogus school day anyways because it was a game day.
We thought life was hard when it really wasn’t, we partied when we could, and the group did things spotaneously.
You can’t look at it so deeply. Just reflect back on the whole stupidity of the highschool mind growing up and it all makes sense.
The players probably thoght they were invincible and that it wouldnt matter if they went out on a Thursday. I am sure Friday was a bogus school day anyways because it was a game day.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 4:34 am to Jack Ruby
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:46 am to Havoc
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Mox was smart, and shrewd. Him taking the guys out the night before was a play to show Kilmer how fragile his world (team) was and how easily he could destroy it, even to the detriment of the team and the players (his “friends”). It was the ultimate power play that put Mox on a collision course with Kilmer and hence his teammates’ futures. Moxon was a narcissist manipulator.
This
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:46 am to Jack Ruby
Everyone in west TX (yes, me) can confirm they had a dipshit coach like Kilmer. I even had a coach bitch at me for caring too much about academics.
It was nice to see a character push back against the status quo.
It was nice to see a character push back against the status quo.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:54 am to CocomoLSU
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That one scene when BB was hammered and shooting his trophies is SO frickING GOOD.
The first time I saw the movie, I thought Billy Bob had shot himself.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:08 am to Havoc
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It was the ultimate power play that put Mox on a collision course with Kilmer and hence his teammates’ futures. Moxon was a narcissist manipulator.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:16 am to Jack Ruby
Mox is the villain of Varsity Blues, not Kilmer.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:54 am to Hou_Lawyer
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I even had a coach bitch at me for caring too much about academics.
Not in West TX, but I had a coach tell me that I needed to choose between chasing girls and playing football. For 16 year old me, that was a pretty easy decision.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:20 am to FairhopeTider
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Mox is the villain of Varsity Blues, not Kilmer.
I'm not sure there was a good person in that movie. Maybe Billy Bob?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:23 am to dirtsandwich
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choose between chasing girls and playing football. For 16 year old me, that was a pretty easy decision.
how'd the football career turn out?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:36 am to FairhopeTider
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Mox is the villain of Varsity Blues, not Kilmer.
Whoa there.
There's room for two villains.
Mox doesn't care about football and should not have led the team (outside of the "frick you Kilmer" win). But Kilmer was shown destroying the health and future life paths of the kids he was tasked with improving. Kilmer clearly only cared about himself.
Mox has genuine compassion for the players on his team. He also observed the bro code of not sleeping with his friend's girl.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:59 am to molsusports
How did Mox never play again after winning the district is the true question
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:21 am to Sun God
He was a a senior and went to an academic Ivy League college and probably became a finance millionaire or energy trader in Houston.
Could he have walked on at Brown and been on the roster? Probably. He was obviously a talented player but he just didn't give a shite about playing football and really never did.
The whole point of his plotline is that he was doing it because everyone else wanted him to and not himself.
Could he have walked on at Brown and been on the roster? Probably. He was obviously a talented player but he just didn't give a shite about playing football and really never did.
The whole point of his plotline is that he was doing it because everyone else wanted him to and not himself.
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:25 am to Jack Ruby
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He was a a senior and went to an academic Ivy League college and probably became a finance millionaire or energy trader in Houston.
I think the question is more why didn't they play the next game in the playoffs?
Posted on 2/15/23 at 9:27 am to Jack Ruby
If I’m not mistaken Texas HS football has playoffs
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