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A true example of a living hell on Earth.

Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56839 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:16 pm
This passage gives a new meaning to the phrase "a living hell".  From an essay on of all things, medical cannabis, in today's Wall Street Journal.  Can't imagine living this nightmare over and over. 


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One of our teaching institutions, McLean Hospital, was studying a pharmaceutical-grade version of cannabis called Marinol (dronabinol in its generic form) to treat agitation precipitated by advancing dementia. Marinol could possibly have a calming and soothing effect without many of the risks carried by pharmaceuticals typically used in patients with end-stage major neurocognitive disorders.

We felt a personal connection to this research. Both of our grandmothers are survivors of the Holocaust, and during the pandemic, we compared stories about their faltering health and declining memories. During this period, Aaron’s 96-year-old grandmother, Marian Miklin, a very stoic personality throughout her life, began to display the same kind of severely agitated behavior that we had studied so meticulously during our geriatric psychiatry fellowships.

Most notable were Mrs. Miklin’s flashbacks. In the final months of her life, she began reliving unimaginably painful memories from Auschwitz and the Nazi labor camp called Starachowice—memories she had suppressed for nearly 80 years. She would yell out for her parents and siblings who were killed in the early 1940s, and she would confuse her medical team and family members for Nazis. Most traumatizing was that she confused her phlebotomist with the notorious “Dr. Mengele,” who had tortured her at Auschwitz, begging him to stop taking her blood. Her condition seemed unresponsive to commonly prescribed medications for dementia, and Aaron’s family wondered: Could cannabis help her?
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:19 pm to
Yea that’s tragic to have to relive those memories.

ETA: Time is a flat circle. Everything we have done or will do we will do over and over and over again—forever.”

This is an example.
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 3:59 pm
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
32656 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:21 pm to
Bummer
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104248 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:21 pm to
We had a family friend who shot himself after a dementia diagnosis. Can't say I blame him.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29446 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:23 pm to
Her experience was horrible...


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confused her phlebotomist with the notorious “Dr. Mengele,”


This POS was probably just happy to be called doctor.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88328 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:24 pm to
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We had a family friend who shot himself after a dementia diagnosis. Can't say I blame him.




that will be me, Alzheimer's runs in my family
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13413 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:56 pm to
I’m not putting my family through that. If or when I get dementia I’m ending it on my terms.

Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52811 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 2:59 pm to
Lets talk about the holomodor
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69244 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:03 pm to
Well, he didn’t go to four years of evil medical school just to be called “Mr.”, thank you very much.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
4055 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:12 pm to
Did the cannabis help?
Posted by Jalbow3
Trussville
Member since Oct 2008
4088 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

We had a family friend who shot himself after a dementia diagnosis. Can't say I blame him.


Years ago, the husband of the couple I was renting from did the same thing. Just went out and sat by a tree in the backyard at shot himself. I guess if you don't want to be a burden, that's your best solution.
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5995 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:16 pm to
dementia is horrible. i hope to any powers that be that im spared that in later life.

to add the fact she relived those type of memories. unbelievable.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77039 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:17 pm to
If I get diagnosed with dementia I am going to develop a heroin habit and at least enjoy myself before pulling the plug.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17982 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:22 pm to
Dementia is the most cruel disease I’ve ever seen.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
7643 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:26 pm to
I thought this was gonna be a New Orleans post
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4400 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:29 pm to
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I’m not putting my family through that. If or when I get dementia I’m ending it on my terms.




Problem is, by the time you have dementia, you likely won't realize or remember what the diagnosis means. Thus you won't be able to act on the news. But I agree with the sentiment. Alz is in my family on both sides. As it stands right now, if given the option I'd trade 10 years of elderly life to avoid 5 years of confusion. i.e I'd rather die at 65 and relatively healthy than die at 80 after 5 years of asking people what my name is.

We all know cancer is awful, but cancer has also kept millions from having to succumb to mental deterioration.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5289 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:54 pm to
Just pray to Jesus. It will all work out.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72940 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 3:56 pm to
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Problem is, by the time you have dementia, you likely won't realize or remember what the diagnosis means. Thus you won't be able to act on the news. But I agree with the sentiment. Alz is in my family on both sides. As it stands right now, if given the option I'd trade 10 years of elderly life to avoid 5 years of confusion. i.e I'd rather die at 65 and relatively healthy than die at 80 after 5 years of asking people what my name is.


While my father was taking care of my advanced-dementia mother, he told me if he ever gets diagnosed he'd rather die. Then he told me where he keeps his 9mm. True story. It was at Thanksgiving years ago. I'm pretty sure I posted it in the annual "Thanksgiving Family Drama" thread that pio posts every year. The question is, would I be able to go through with it, and get away with it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72940 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 4:00 pm to
Toward the end of my mother's dementia, she was living in a nightmare of bad childhood memories. Not holocaust, but just random stuff, screaming out her sister's name in rage, like maybe memories that get stored in the very back of the brain to forget, and then once all the brain is gone except for that back plane, then all you have left is that back plane and you just re-live through it until the part of the brain that controls your vital organs quits working, then you can finally have peace in death.



ETA- my wife's grandfather died of Alz too, didn't know anyone's name etc, but he always knew who I was, which I and their family always thought was really weird.

It's a weird disease.
This post was edited on 2/4/23 at 4:03 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8670 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 4:21 pm to
Going through a lot of these same things right now with my 98 year old mama. All my life, I've been a "fixer". I can't fix this.
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