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re: Did Huey P Long block Alexandria from being a major metro?
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:50 pm to Demonbengal
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:50 pm to Demonbengal
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A boss of mine told me a story about this several years ago. He said there was a major Highway set to be built, but the local politicians pissed off Huey P somehow so he had them build the hwy. several miles outside of Alec. costing them the business. My boss had a tendency to stretch the truth so was never if this true or not. Anybody have info on this?
I doubt this assessment.
Alec is essentially in the crisscross of major US roads connecting Shreveport with Lafayette and Monroe with Lake Charles.
Now, when the interstate Highway system came long after Huey Long, Alec was left out of the interstate system as was Houma.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:53 pm to Tarps99
quote:and Natchez
when the interstate Highway system came long after Huey Long, Alec was left out of the interstate system as was Houma
If they ever build that E-W interstate (14?) N'chz will finally be on one, and Brookhaven will be on two: a new hub?!
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:54 pm to GruntbyAssociation
Your boss is correct somewhat. Huey did reroute the road but I think it was maybe Pineville's mayor who he fell out with.
I talked to an old guy who worked for the then "Highway Commission" under Huey. He said Huey would come out to the site and make them reroute roads to make sure they went by the most houses throughout the countryside to benefit folks who had no way of getting hardly anywhere.
He said a road that could run straight from point A to point B would end up looking like a coiled snake if it helped some old farm families gain access.
If you notice a lot of LA roads seem to be crooked for no reason, there's your answer. Huey built more roads than any governor in history. The problem is, since Huey, little maintenance has been done of many of them.
I talked to an old guy who worked for the then "Highway Commission" under Huey. He said Huey would come out to the site and make them reroute roads to make sure they went by the most houses throughout the countryside to benefit folks who had no way of getting hardly anywhere.
He said a road that could run straight from point A to point B would end up looking like a coiled snake if it helped some old farm families gain access.
If you notice a lot of LA roads seem to be crooked for no reason, there's your answer. Huey built more roads than any governor in history. The problem is, since Huey, little maintenance has been done of many of them.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:55 pm to FreeState
quote:examples?
If you notice a lot of LA roads seem to be crooked for no reason, there's your answer.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:56 pm to GruntbyAssociation
It was Melville and Hwy 71. If you look at Hwy 71 south of Bunkie and how it bypassed Melville, it looks like someone drew it with a straight edge.
When I worked around Louisiana politics, they had an old consultant tell me, “The first rule of Louisiana politics is to reward your friends and punish your enemies.” And there’s no better example of the implementation of this rule than what Huey Long did to the tiny town of Melville.
Now, Melville sits on the banks of the Atchafalaya River, and during the last century—the early part of the last century, it was a booming town. There were hotels, there were theaters. There’s a lot going on in Melville. And Huey Long came to campaign for the 1928 governor’s election there. And the folks there didn’t really like him. And so, they ridiculed him, they jeered him. And he made a promise to them, “I am never going to forget Melville, and you’ll pay for this.”
Well, they did, and in a big way. Well, Long won the 1928 election, and he did not forget his promise to Melville. He built a highway, Highway 71. It’s still there today. Now, the main corridor between Shreveport and Baton Rouge was a highway that passed right through Melville. And so, if he wanted to improve the route, it would have made sense to take the existing road and improve it. Huey Long decided to build a brand new highway right through a swamp. It took more time, it increased the miles from Baton Rouge to Shreveport by about 10 or 12 miles. But what it did is completely bypass Melville. There was no reason to go through Melville anymore.
Eight decades later, the town does not thrive. There are no theaters there, there are no hotels there. Huey Long’s promise to never forget Melville and to destroy it economically did work. And certainly, Huey did not care about his image. He cared about power, and attaining it and keeping it. And he was the master of it.
When I worked around Louisiana politics, they had an old consultant tell me, “The first rule of Louisiana politics is to reward your friends and punish your enemies.” And there’s no better example of the implementation of this rule than what Huey Long did to the tiny town of Melville.
Now, Melville sits on the banks of the Atchafalaya River, and during the last century—the early part of the last century, it was a booming town. There were hotels, there were theaters. There’s a lot going on in Melville. And Huey Long came to campaign for the 1928 governor’s election there. And the folks there didn’t really like him. And so, they ridiculed him, they jeered him. And he made a promise to them, “I am never going to forget Melville, and you’ll pay for this.”
Well, they did, and in a big way. Well, Long won the 1928 election, and he did not forget his promise to Melville. He built a highway, Highway 71. It’s still there today. Now, the main corridor between Shreveport and Baton Rouge was a highway that passed right through Melville. And so, if he wanted to improve the route, it would have made sense to take the existing road and improve it. Huey Long decided to build a brand new highway right through a swamp. It took more time, it increased the miles from Baton Rouge to Shreveport by about 10 or 12 miles. But what it did is completely bypass Melville. There was no reason to go through Melville anymore.
Eight decades later, the town does not thrive. There are no theaters there, there are no hotels there. Huey Long’s promise to never forget Melville and to destroy it economically did work. And certainly, Huey did not care about his image. He cared about power, and attaining it and keeping it. And he was the master of it.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:57 pm to tigerpawl
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Hint: Hwy 71 + Melville
Yep.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:59 pm to Tarps99
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Houma
Not sure about Alexandria, but Houma was left out of the interstate system on purpose
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:03 pm to Demonbengal
There are multiple states that interstates would have gone through certain areas but the bumpkins that lived in those areas didn’t want change and more people so they fought against it and now suffer for it
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:03 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:A HOTBED OF HOUMASEXUALS
Houma was left out of the interstate system on purpose
AMIRITE
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:06 pm to Kafka
quote:
A HOTBED OF HOUMASEXUALS
There seems to be no straight forward answer to that
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:15 pm to FreeState
That makes sense. My boss actually lived in Pineville so maybe he got the story from some old timers there.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:28 pm to tigerpawl
LA 71 is damn near a straight line from Bunkie to Krotz Springs and the US 190 bridge. I don't see how Melville was "bypassed".
Now, I've never understood how frigin LA 10 didn't get a bridge across the Atchafalaya right there at Melville! That looks like someone was trying to screw them over.
Now, I've never understood how frigin LA 10 didn't get a bridge across the Atchafalaya right there at Melville! That looks like someone was trying to screw them over.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:52 pm to tigerpawl
Yeah Melville is in horrible shape these days it’s basically dead. Once the older generation started dying off who still lived there it’s real bad off
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:59 pm to Picayuner
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And Vicksburg has houses that rival uptown Nola. Very nice old houses but run down
Many small cities in the Deep South are this way... I can't remember all the names, but if you drive from Atlanta to Troy State, or to Fort Benning / Phenix City there are a lot of towns like that. Hattiesburg is like that to some extent.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:06 pm to RougeDawg
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LA 71 is damn near a straight line from Bunkie to Krotz Springs and the US 190 bridge. I don't see how Melville was "bypassed".
From Lebeau, going through Melville would have been the logical, most direct route to BR. Nonetheless, it was "redirected" in literally a straight line to Krotz Spring (there's your bypass), which added approx 12 miles to the North-South trip... all to "payback" the citizens of Melville and pinch it off from a vital commercial route. Population of Melville in 2021 : 757
The straight-line nature of that stretch of Hwy 71 (Lebeau to Krotz Springs) is telling when the most practical route should have been Lebeau > Melville > Baton Rouge. Or at least it appears that way.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:10 pm to Demonbengal
No. Major metropolitan areas don’t become such just because a highway was built. There has to be some industry that grows there that attracts employees and other services.
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:17 pm to Demonbengal
That’s the story about Melville. Melville was an important town in the early 1900s along the railroad between Shreveport and New Orleans. But St Landry Parish was for Oramel Simpson in the 1928 election. Huey went to Melville to give a speech and they ran him out of town. Huey built highway 71 west of town and built the bridge over the Atchafalaya in Krotz Springs instead.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:17 pm to Demonbengal
The indian mounds were created from dirt used from the old nat. Huey didnt want to pay the contractors to haul it off, citing he only paid them to dig the holes.
He immediatedly consecrated them as indian mounds. It was understood at the time to be a symbolic gesture, though few knew it was a politically and econimically shrewd one.
Old BR people have always known this.
To this day people believe the three tiny piles of grown over dirt are actual indian mounds.
Indian mounds are massive. A child might have trouble getting to the top.
It's like a meme from the 1920's that has been scribed by over educated idiots as truth.
TLDR: Huey was not someone to depend on when the check came and no native americans were involved in the "building" of the mounds
Eta: there are documents contempary to the time in the LSU historical library- available for anyone with any type of identification- to review.
He immediatedly consecrated them as indian mounds. It was understood at the time to be a symbolic gesture, though few knew it was a politically and econimically shrewd one.
Old BR people have always known this.
To this day people believe the three tiny piles of grown over dirt are actual indian mounds.
Indian mounds are massive. A child might have trouble getting to the top.
It's like a meme from the 1920's that has been scribed by over educated idiots as truth.
TLDR: Huey was not someone to depend on when the check came and no native americans were involved in the "building" of the mounds
Eta: there are documents contempary to the time in the LSU historical library- available for anyone with any type of identification- to review.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:23 pm to tigerpawl
tigerpawl must have Melville blood too
Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:25 pm to Kafka
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A HOTBED OF HOUMASEXUALS AMIRITE
Well they did have a gay serial killer on the loose from 1997-2006.
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