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re: DeSantis responds to Trump criticisms

Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:19 am to
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
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Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:19 am to
As a Floridian, IMO, Trump needs to be careful criticizing DeSantis. He is very popular in Florida and Trump can't win the nomination without winning Florida. If he turns off too many Florida voters by bashing the Gov. he won't.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31091 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:23 am to
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What's he going to do different to win Arizona in 2024?


Nothing now that Lake lost, unless something changes with the appeal. It's up to AZ to fix itself.

This whole Trump/DeSantis argument is pointless.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72739 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:25 am to
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This whole Trump/DeSantis argument is pointless.


Then maybe Trump should shut up?
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
7157 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:33 am to
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He's not ready to stand up to Trump or even the national media


He's dealt with national media since he became governor. Furthermore, he doesn't have to respond to Trump or name-calling. Just bring it back to the issues, and his record on them.

I laugh at the double standard that doesn't allow any politician to change their stance on anything, except Trump. He can do it whenever he wants and sycophants find a water spin it
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3011 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:38 am to
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Winning in Florida is great


Which he did on the coat tails of Trump and playing America First.

If Ron is too stupid to figure out which side is the winning ticket, you are right, he's not ready for the national stage.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31091 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:38 am to
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Then maybe Trump should shut up?


Maybe. I still don't get his angle here.

DeSantis could also say if he is running or not if the jabs are bothering him.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5195 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:39 am to
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Nothing now that Lake lost, unless something changes with the appeal. It's up to AZ to fix itself


Over 76K people voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but didn't vote for Trump. Kimberly Yee outperformed Kari Lake and so did some Congressional Republicans in their districts.

The lesson is pretty clearly to nominate candidates who expand the base and don't alienate voters who typically vote Republican, which Trump and Lake have done.

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DeSantis could also say if he is running or not if the jabs are bothering him.


I doubt it's bothering him. He probably loves it. Unlike Trump, DeSantis doesn't have a brain that's the size of a walnut and realizes that Trump saying stupid shite and lying helps him (DeSantis) get more support each and every day. He's smart enough to let the loser continue to hang himself.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 10:41 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147389 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:44 am to
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Those policies are dead on arrival in Florida."
You know better.

Will Ron be allowed as President to speak and act like this?

Anti-WEF is red meat to the base. Will he go to a podium and refurbish/denounce the Paris Accords? Revamp NATO? Stop playing color revolution in Ukraine?

Would he denounce The WEF? The U.N. globalization, great reset hard on in actionable policies?

Very unlikely, he would fake it and give red meat speeches; while having lavish meals & cocktail parties with the globalists-- like Nikki did as she banned statues.

Ron is on record as being a neocon regarding Ukraine. Does he still think that Zelenskyy is like Churchill? His avoidance of the Ukraine topic could be that Christina Pushaw was at Zelenskyy's inauguration.



LINK

LINK

There is a Bush ran PAC called MaverickPac. It was archived above. Ron DeSantis, Cruz's names are listed on there as their birthplace of politics. Nuff said...

ETA: The MaverickPac ran by the Bush's suddenly disappeared online. Good thing it was archived.

A Typical DeSantis Snow Job: Buddying up to the CCP while pretending he isn’t.

This in minor oppo research and vetting. I am out just knowing he didn't fire Christina and his political career was born in the Bush MaverickPAC.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31091 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:49 am to
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The lesson is pretty clearly to nominate candidates who expand the base and don't alienate voters who typically vote Republican, which Trump and Lake have done.


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I doubt it's bothering him. He probably loves it. Unlike Trump, DeSantis doesn't have a brain that's the size of a walnut and realizes that Trump saying stupid shite and lying helps him (DeSantis) get more support each and every day. He's smart enough to let the loser continue to hang himself.






Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72739 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:51 am to
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if the jabs are bothering him


I don't think they are. DeSantis is a smart dude, and probably recognizes that Trump's actions are helping DeSantis.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3011 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 10:58 am to
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DeSantis could also say if he is running or not


Or Ron could just say "frick Trump" OR "frick Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, and Mitch"

Sooner or later he has to pick a side. Only one is a winner. If he decides to dump Trump, he's done. Even in Florida.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2273 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:03 am to
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Winning in Florida is great but it's not like winning President of the United States which Trump has done. Many would say he did it twice.



1) trump ain’t ever won the popular vote

2) Trump only won Fl by 300k votes

3) RD won by 1.5M votes- and that was during a cycle that nationally Republicans barely won anything

4) Trump is smelling like old man desperation

5) If the Repubs nominate Trump again…he will lose again
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72739 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:03 am to
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Even in Florida.


DeSantis could shoot someone on Ocean Drive and not lose Florida.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6567 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:04 am to
We are two “retruths” (lol) from Trump asking why DeSantis didn’t fire Fauci.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37710 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:06 am to
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Or Ron could just say "frick Trump" OR "frick Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, and Mitch"

Sooner or later he has to pick a side. Only one is a winner. If he decides to dump Trump, he's done. Even in Florida.



LOL no that is completely the wrong way to go about it.....the winning strategy is to get MAGA and the Establishment/RINO wing aligned on what is important to both parties and get everyone on the same page. That basically means the Establishment is going to have to start listening to the concerns of the working class MAGA base and what is important to them which is principally: trade policies that create jobs and benefit American middle and working classes, no more cheap labor imported through open borders, ending NEOCON foreign policy, stopping the progressive march, and government that is responsible to the people not the big corporations.

There is a hell of a lot more that I agree with Mitch McConnell on than any fricking Democrat and if we could just get on the same page it would be a winning combo.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 11:09 am
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2273 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:12 am to
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LOL no that is completely the wrong way to go about it.....the winning strategy is to get MAGA and the Establishment/RINO wing aligned on what is important to both parties and get everyone on the same page. That basically means the Establishment is going to have to start listening to the concerns of the working class MAGA base and what is important to them which is principally: trade policies that create jobs and benefit American middle and working classes, no more cheap labor imported through open borders, ending NEOCON foreign policy, stopping the progressive march, and government that is responsible to the people not the big corporations.


DeSantis threads that needle perfectly- he will have the MAGA ppl because he brings exactly the same thing Trump brings but minus the negatives that Trump has and he will have the 20% of Repubs who didn’t like Trump’s antics

This is a win/win
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261685 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:14 am to


Rons an adult
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45854 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:18 am to
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Winning in Florida is great but it's not like winning President of the United States which Trump has done. Many would say he did it twice.
Bigly. Trump owns the record for First place and Second place in number of votes received by a Republican candidate. Ever.

He had 2 million more votes than any Republican candidate in his first election and added another 12 million on top of that in 2020.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12981 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:22 am to
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Ron is on record as being a neocon regarding Ukraine. Does he still think that Zelenskyy is like Churchill? His avoidance of the Ukraine topic could be that Christina Pushaw was at Zelenskyy's inauguration.



This insanity is no different than the resist libs that have attacked DeSantis for 3 years
Posted by easyas123
Member since Jan 2021
141 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:26 am to
People better do their research. Some are just paid political bots. Not going to work when people hit the polls.
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