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re: Florida To Begin Sentencing Pedophiles to Death – Democrats Outraged
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:37 pm to SOSFAN
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:37 pm to SOSFAN
quote:You slobbering moron, I SAID that several pages BEFORE he posted his understanding.
Given that this is almost EXACTLY what I said when I resorted to monosyllables for them, yeah.quote:
I called it. Straight to the life preserver.
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:38 pm to SOSFAN
quote:
Aggiehank has already stated that he could make an argument that pedophiles are victims.
Equal victim and pred.
Pretty amazing stance, wonder which is his preference?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Because it accomplishes three goals.
Why low security?
1. Adequately protects the public.
2. Minimizes the likelihood of extra-judicial punishment.
3. Limits governmental expenditures.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:40 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Why low security?
Because it accomplishes three goals.
1. Adequately protects the public.
Youre literally making this fricking shite up on the spot.
If min security protects the public adequately, why do we need anything else?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:41 pm to bamadontcare
quote:Well, except for the fact that SCOTUS tells us that this "option" is unconstitutional unless the victim was killed.
Know how to cure a pedo? Kill his arse.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Castration doesn't always stop pedos.
Theres only one thing that stops them.
Succinct, to the point, and true.
Only disagree with "doesn't always stop pedos."
It never stops their hatred for children.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:42 pm to jackamo3300
quote:
It never stops their hatred for children.
Theyll tell you straight up that castration doesn't stop them.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:44 pm to AggieHank86
This “option” is the only one that works.
There is no place on earth for these people or their defenders. ^^^^^^
There is no place on earth for these people or their defenders. ^^^^^^
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:44 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Would you have an issue with the child molester being placed in Genpop with an announcement made of their conviction?
That raises interesting moral and ethical questions.
Empirical evidence shows us that such prisoners generally do NOT survive long in GenPop, but instead get shivved with a quickness.
This is what we were discussing before you stated they could be put safely I low security prisons. I knew you would jump on the life preserver the poster threw you and sure enough....
You lie so much to try and cover your tracks that you can't keep up with them.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:For some classes of offenders, high-, maximum- or even "super-max" security is absolutely necessary, in order to protect the public.
If min security protects the public adequately, why do we need anything else?
For other classes of offenders, low- and medium-security are quite adequate to satisfy the goal.
That is WHY we have five classes of prisons NOW, you imbecile.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:46 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
For some classes of offenders, high-, maximum- or even "super-max" security is absolutely necessary, in order to protect the public.
Why wouldn't someone who raped kids be considered a high risk class?
Why would you automatically put them in a low risk class?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:47 pm to SOSFAN
quote:
Aggiehank has already stated that he could make an argument that pedophiles are victims.
Hes very angry now that I think they're too high risk to be in min security.
Wonder what prison he's posting from?
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Why would you automatically put them in a low risk class
Let's be honest what is the only reason someone would state that. Also what is the best reason someone would say they could make an argument that child molesters are victims.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:50 pm to SOSFAN
quote:
Let's be honest what is the only reason someone would state that.
Absolutely.
His feelings are with the perp.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:51 pm to Placekicker
There is no excusing the heinous actins of child molesters, regardless if they were victims themselves. Suffering psychological trauma is not a carte blanche to inflict psychological trauma on innocent people. I don't know the stat, but I would venture the majority of people who were victims of molestation when they were children did NOT become child molesters. Everyone is a victim of some injustice at some point in their life, but that gives them no right to victimize anyone else.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:52 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Molester bad. Goal is to protect citizens from molester. High-security prisons are expensive. Low-security prisons are less expensive. Even prisons should be cost-effective. If government can protect citizens by using low-cost (low-security) prison, it should do so.
A guillotine is even cheaper than low-security prison, and has a zero repeat offender rate. It’s very effective.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The data that I have seen says that they are NOT problematic prisoners. They tend to be loners. They do not start fights with other prisoners. They obey the guards. They do not attempt escape. In short, the types of prisoners who can be easily-controlled at a lower cost to the State in low- and medium-security facilities.quote:Why wouldn't someone who raped kids be considered a high risk class? Why would you automatically put them in a low risk class?
For some classes of offenders, high-, maximum- or even "super-max" security is absolutely necessary, in order to protect the public.
Interesting question: If they are sentenced to "life without parole," will they CONTINUE to have low incidence of attempted escape? No way to know in advance.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:52 pm to EulerRules
quote:
Everyone is a victim of some injustice at some point in their life, but that gives them no right to victimize anyone else.
Its a cycle that continues and has probably caused more damage to this country than drugs.
We're fricking up our kids every way possible.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
More importantly, it serves a a terribly poor deterrent for a heinous crime.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 1:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Well, you did not say that, but please do expound. What "risk" do they pose WHILE IN PRISON? Do they start fights? Do they disobey the guards? Do they attempt escape?
I think they're too high risk to be in min security.
Again, what "high risk" do they present AS PRISONERS, not as free citizens (a completely different question).
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