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I just read Kevin Costner turned down the Andy role in Shawshank for Waterworld
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:40 am
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:40 am
Just read a story that Kevin Costner was the guy they wanted to play Andy in Shawshank but he turned it down becAuse he liked waterworld better .
It is my opinion that if he would have taken the Shawshank role over the waterworld role he would have been regarded as the GOAT actor of all time .
He was just coming off huge hits like
Field of Dreams , Dances with Wolves , Tombstone , the Bodyguard . Then now finally with Yellowstone
You add Shawshank to that list and he’s the GOAT .
But instead of Shawshank he did waterworld which was his worst movie ever . And he has not been the same since . He career took a huge decline after that movie .
It is my opinion that if he would have taken the Shawshank role over the waterworld role he would have been regarded as the GOAT actor of all time .
He was just coming off huge hits like
Field of Dreams , Dances with Wolves , Tombstone , the Bodyguard . Then now finally with Yellowstone
You add Shawshank to that list and he’s the GOAT .
But instead of Shawshank he did waterworld which was his worst movie ever . And he has not been the same since . He career took a huge decline after that movie .
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:50 am
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:47 am to Baylor
Couple of bad apocalyptic movies he did there with Waterworld and The Postman.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:48 am to Baylor
Matt Damon passed up being Jake Sully
Some actors make bad decisions
Some actors make bad decisions
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:48 am to LB84
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bad apocalyptic movies
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The Postman.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:50 am to LB84
Waterworld wasn't a bad movie taken as just a post-apocalyptic action movie... it just was considered a flop because of the massive budget, biggest ever at the time.
The idea that melting ife caps would put everything underwater was absurd, though. They should have come up with a better initial premise.
The idea that melting ife caps would put everything underwater was absurd, though. They should have come up with a better initial premise.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 9:54 am to Baylor
Will Smith turned down Neo in The Matrix for The Wild Wild West.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:01 am to Baylor
I think he would have been very good in the role.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:07 am to Baylor
I think I remember reading that Robbins was way down the list of choices for that role.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:09 am to Baylor
But would Shawshank have been as good a film, if Costner had taken the role?
Personally, I think the actual casting was perfection. Things tend to work out.
Personally, I think the actual casting was perfection. Things tend to work out.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:10 am to LSUBoo
quote:I know that I am in the distinct minority, but I actually enjoy Waterworld.
Waterworld wasn't a bad movie taken as just a post-apocalyptic action movie... it just was considered a flop because of the massive budget, biggest ever at the time.
(Of course, I have also had a lifelong crush on Jeanne Tripplehorn).
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 10:40 am
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:13 am to Baylor
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It is my opinion that if he would have taken the Shawshank role over the waterworld role he would have been regarded as the GOAT actor of all time.
I don't think it would have been as good of a film with Costner in the lead. Tim Robbins fit that role perfecttly. It's not like it was a hit at the box office at the time.
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But instead of Shawshank he did waterworld which was his worst movie ever. And he has not been the same since. He career took a huge decline after that movie.
Waterworld never deserved all the crap it got, it's actually a pretty good movie. Kinda like John Carter, which was a great movie. I think Costner has done fine afterward.
This post was edited on 1/24/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:15 am to Baylor
I know both Kevin and Tim via my wife.
First Kevin was a producer on Waterworld which was a $200m blockbuster vs Shawshank which was a $20m low budget. Not sure anyone would choose Shawshank without the benefit of hindsight. If money is motive (which it is for most of us who work for a living) he made the right choice. Both Waterworld & Shawshank were box office failures that later made profit on DVD, TV and rereleases. My guess is Kevin's residuals today on Waterworld are much higher than Tim's for Shawshank.
I actually like Waterworld and The Postman. Kevin is proud of those films. He is certainly not walking around regretting his life decisions. He's almost 70 and has the #1 TV show in the US. My wife spoke to him last week on his birthday and he was very excited to add Best Actor in a Drama Series award to his bio.
I also think Shawshank is perfectly cast. Not sure Kevin could do what Tim did with that film. Had Kevin done it, they might have a different cast, different dialogue. I wouldn't change a thing.
First Kevin was a producer on Waterworld which was a $200m blockbuster vs Shawshank which was a $20m low budget. Not sure anyone would choose Shawshank without the benefit of hindsight. If money is motive (which it is for most of us who work for a living) he made the right choice. Both Waterworld & Shawshank were box office failures that later made profit on DVD, TV and rereleases. My guess is Kevin's residuals today on Waterworld are much higher than Tim's for Shawshank.
I actually like Waterworld and The Postman. Kevin is proud of those films. He is certainly not walking around regretting his life decisions. He's almost 70 and has the #1 TV show in the US. My wife spoke to him last week on his birthday and he was very excited to add Best Actor in a Drama Series award to his bio.
I also think Shawshank is perfectly cast. Not sure Kevin could do what Tim did with that film. Had Kevin done it, they might have a different cast, different dialogue. I wouldn't change a thing.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:21 am to Baylor
And Sean Connery turned down Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings movies for The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:24 am to AggieHank86
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I know that I am in the distinct minority, but I actually enjoy Waterworld.
Jim Carrey in Cable Guy thought it RULED!
And ironically Cable Guy is another movie that as much better than all of the hate it got when first released.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:28 am to AUFANATL
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Jim Carrey in Cable Guy thought it RULED!
And ironically Cable Guy is another movie that as much better than all of the hate it got when first released.
Cable Guy might be my favorite Jim Carrey movie.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:30 am to AggieHank86
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But would Shawshank have been as good a film, if Costner had taken the role?
Probably not. I don’t think Costner’s charisma would have worked well with the role. Andy needed to be more timid and low key than Costner probably could have portrayed believably
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:32 am to Baylor
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In a retrospective, Vanity Fair wrote that Reiner's initial vision put Tom Cruise in the leading role. Cruise had just come off a massive success with Reiner in the form of Aaron Sorkin's classic courtroom drama A Few Good Men (1992). Cruise even did a table read, but he was unwilling to work under Darabont as it was his first film. Fellow 90s mainstays Tom Hanks and Kevin Costner were offered the role, but passed. Hanks was busy with the lead in Forrest Gump (1994), the film which would beat out Shawshank for Best Picture, among other awards. Costner had the lead in the post-apocalyptic Waterworld (1995) and was therefore unavailable.
After a few more names came and went through Castle Rock Entertainment, Darabont at last turned to Tim Robbins after seeing him in the 1990 psychological horror film Jacob's Ladder. It was Robbins who spurred the hiring of experienced cinematographer Roger Deakins, a sure-footed Gregg Toland to Darabont's green Welles. Deakins would go on to earn an Academy Award nomination for his work on the film, one in a long list of accolades for the legendary DP.
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The original novella describes Red as a white Irishman. In the aforementioned Vanity Fair piece, Darabont is said to have first thought of some of his favorite actors: Gene Hackman and Robert Duvall, who were unavailable for one reason or another. The Daily Beast reported that Harrison Ford, Paul Newman, and Clint Eastwood were considered for the role, Ford being Reiner's initial choice opposite Cruise's Andy Dufresne.
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In the end, Castle Rock producer Liz Glotzer suggested ignoring the novella's characterization outright and casting Morgan Freeman. Deadline reported that Darabont was receptive to the decision, having seen him in Brubaker (1980), and Robbins was excited to work with Freeman after having grown up watching him on The Electric Company. Freeman himself has cited the script as being among the best he'd ever read, and was delighted at the chance to be in the film in any role.
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James Gandolfini passed on the role of Boggs, the violent prison gang leader, and Andy's repeat assaulter. In 1994, Gandolfini had relatively few film credits to his name, but he soon became an icon when he started working in television during the late 90s, most notably as mafioso Tony Soprano in the eponymous HBO series. Instead, the role went to character actor Mark Rolston, a veteran of several genre films including Aliens (1986) and Lethal Weapon 2 (1989).
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A young Brad Pitt nearly played inmate Tommy Williams, himself another character that was the beneficiary of Darabont's retooling of the original novella. In the book, Tommy exchanges evidence that would free Andy to the Warden for a transfer to a nicer prison, but Darabont ups the ante of Norton's villainy and introduces some cinematic violence into the story by riddling the kid with bullets at Norton's direction. In a USA Today piece, Pitt remarked he has no regrets about passing on the project, and Darabont was happy with Gil Bellows' debut in the role.
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:39 am to tigerfan84
A who’s who of actors that passed on roles for sure
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