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re: Offset stick burner vs pellet smoker

Posted on 1/7/23 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 2:32 pm to
The other variable is heat retention , Recteq’s are thick stainless and burn less to maintain a certain temp.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
7668 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Link suggesting I said other grills don’t, especially ones controlled by airflow.
so be it, what about your claim that the circulated air (in a pellet smoker) helps with moisture content. Or did you not "suggest grills don't, especially ones controlled by airflow" here too?
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
90564 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 2:56 pm to
Why are you trying to get a gotcha moment?

I am just talking about pellet grills. Peeps on here give so much misinformation. I am just trying to help.

JFC
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12157 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 2:57 pm to
To be fair, the way you said it made it sound like you were naming a feature that was limited to peeler grills lol

quote:

Peeps on here give so much misinformation.


But yes
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 2:58 pm
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
7668 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 3:03 pm to
Why are you getting defensive? I'm just looking for some leisurely Saturday reading on the airflow and moisture retention benefits of pellet smokers.

You made a claim so I thought you might have some information to share.

If you don't, and were just talking out of your arse then, so be it.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1584 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

The only real pain in the arse I have with the offset is the really long cooks (12-18 hrs) such as a full brisket,


I have an offset and a fan/temp control on my Kamado. For long cooks (specifically brisket) I start out on the offset and move it to the Kamado after 4-5hrs when the bark starts to set.

I have been getting great results doing this, with the added bonus that the Kamado with temp control (or pellet grill) holds temp around 200F or below much easier than an offset so you can really extend your hold/rest time much longer.

Can you possibly fix your offset and add a pellet grill? I get a lot of use out of both styles.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
8785 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:41 pm to
I have a pellet and agree with you. Stick burners cannot be beat. But I also can’t smoke a brisket at my house from work on a stick burner.

Pros and cons to both, but pellet smokers are definitely clutch
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31319 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

Biggest difference is the expected heavy smoke presence when taking a bite from a stick burner. I don’t miss managing wood, at all. A lot of the better equipped pellet grill allow for a smoke mode at a lower temp. Recteq is calls it extreme smoke. I have no ragratz


I want my next smoker to be a stick burner, when I have room for it, but will be getting a DigiQ to manage temps.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31319 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

One is a smoker one is an oven
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People like you can repeat this as much as you want but it won’t make it true. With my GMG the electricity is there to blow the fire and keep it going as it burns the wood.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12157 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:33 pm to
quote:

People like you can repeat this as much as you want but it won’t make it true. With my GMG the electricity is there to blow the fire and keep it going as it burns the wood.


Right. Lol. Dudes an idiot
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20891 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 7:59 pm to
The stick burner will make better bbq (because you will be there all day babysitting it).

The pellet grill will also make good bbq, just not as strong smoke flavor and generally worse bark.

I use my pellet grill because I can do a 16hr cook from my phone. I don't have to plan the entire day around managing fire, temp, airflow, wood, etc.

As far as flavor goes, I notice a huge difference in quality of pellets. For example, Traeger pellets are compressed sawdust sprayed with flavoring. Cookin' Pellets are all hardwood with no additives. I pretty much only use Cookin' Pellets because the smoke is so much better. I also tend to do much lower and slower cooks than I would on an offset to get better smoke and bark.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12157 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

generally worse bark.


I get great bark on anything I do on my pellet. I never wrap though.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12157 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

As far as flavor goes, I notice a huge difference in quality of pellets. For example, Traeger pellets are compressed sawdust sprayed with flavoring. Cookin' Pellets are all hardwood with no additives. I pretty much only use Cookin' Pellets because the smoke is so much better.


Are the ingredients listed on each bag of the different brands?
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9444 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

just not as strong smoke flavor and generally worse bark.


Pellet smoker will do fine bark in my opinion.





Does fine searing a steak also.

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
12157 posts
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

Pellet smoker will do fine bark in my opinion.


Right. It’s not like bark is developed from wood. It’s mostly your heat.
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:34 am to
I love my pellet grill and when doing a long duration cook (brisket, ribs, butt roast, etc) I use a smoke tube to really get the smoke going.
Posted by CherokeeTiger
Member since Jan 2011
610 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:42 am to
I went the offset route because of the way I cook BBQ and the fact that it’s the sole activity for the day. In other words, I have the time required to babysit.

If I were looking to do other things while the food cooked, I would easily go the pellet route.

My friends have pellet grills and we share food/recipes. We’ve generally decided that we like bigger meats (pork butt, brisket, etc.) on the offset and smaller meats (chicken, ribs, etc.) on the pellet because they don’t need as much of the heavy smoke.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12865 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:43 am to
Different strokes for different folks. If the food is good and you enjoy the experience, what else matters?

Personally, I enjoy a stick burner. I enjoy running the fire, and appreciate doing it like my grandfather. When a cook is done and we enjoy it as a family, there isn’t a much better feeling for me.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21422 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 11:15 am to
The wife asked me a while back if I wanted one of those pellet things, but then we both agreed I don’t look good in a skirt and shaved legs.

Just kidding before any pellet baws get all worked up.

I like the real wood burning feeling and flavor; however, there are definitely times I wish I could throw something on and not worry about it. Have a rack of ribs ready after running errands and doing other stuff for six hours without feeling the need to check the fire.
Posted by Mad Dogg
LA
Member since Sep 2016
3779 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

generally worse bark

So much worse, generally


You can produce fantastic BBQ with a pellet grill if you know what you’re doing. Preparation and cooking methods are far more important than wood format.
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