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re: Mike Scarborough brought up something with Jacques Doucet regarding Walker Howard

Posted on 12/20/22 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by LSU1215
Monroe
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 5:58 pm to
So just to clear this up. You think Archie Manning is going to go in and take Ewers job at Texas just because he is 5 star? I could see a 5 star going to like Colorado, Arizona, and even Nebraska taking the job. You rarely see it at like a LSU, Alabama, OSU, and Georgia happen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 5:58 pm to
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How do you know


He would have never been prepared to play. You don't just go from scout team to winning as a starter
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:02 pm to
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You think Archie Manning is going to go in and take Ewers job at Texas just because he is 5 star?

No but that's more because I don't see him as a legit 5-star QB talent.

But if he is, then he should be pushing Ewers. That doesn't mean he'll beat him, but he should be in the running.

quote:

You rarely see it at like a LSU, Alabama, OSU

Tua didn't challenge Hurts his 1st year? REALLY?

CJ Stroud was starting in year 2 because they prepared him to be ready in year 1.

Caleb Williams also took over at OU as a true freshman

You don't see it at UGA b/c under Kirby they have run a Les Miles offense
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:06 pm to
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Nussmeier was better than him this past year and neither of them got significant game experience other than Nussmeier playing in the SECCG. So tell me again, how is Howard going to pass Nussmeier.


By improving at a higher rate and being better than him?

You have a myopic view of athletic improvement.
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:08 pm to
He only played real snaps in 1 game, it’s not like he unseated DJU midseason and never looked back
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:10 pm to
And yet I get downvoted every time I blast Kelly for bringing in Daniels.

Nuss should have been QB1 with Howard as the backup this year.
Posted by YMCA
It's Fun to Stay
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:13 pm to
I find it hard to believe that his family is upset that he didn’t get a fair shake this past season when they’re the one’s that wanted him to RS.

You aren’t going to play any meaningful snaps in the game, so why would they take quality reps from those that will/might play?

Now he definitely deserves a fair shot this upcoming season and if he’s been told differently, I understand, but I doubt that’s the case.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:14 pm to
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Nuss should have been QB1 with Howard as the backup this year.


We do that and we go 4-8 or 5-7 and the entire environment of the program is a 180.

Then we'd be in the mud hoping Howard unseats Nuss to avoid another 2022
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
8860 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:16 pm to
So tired of the bullshite. He wanted to redshirt but now he better get a chance or else? frick these kids and their helicopter parents. LSU will be fine regardless
Posted by DCtiger1
Panama City Beach
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:17 pm to
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And yet I get downvoted every time I blast Kelly for bringing in Daniels


Because you’re a fricking idiot
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:20 pm to
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We do that and we go 4-8 or 5-7


You can’t believe this after watching Nuss with our receivers.

If anything we could have won more - and I’ll tell you what, Auburn and Arkansas would have been much less puckered.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8333 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:21 pm to
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Kid should be given a shot regardless of his classification. Cade Klubnick wasn't running scout team

Cade Klubnick’s parents also didn’t request that he redshirt.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15120 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:25 pm to
Jaime asked that we redshirt walker and now we want to complain. Yea I’m not buying it. Mike is off base
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:26 pm to
Just about everyone, coaches included, believe that actually
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:27 pm to
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Nussmeier was better than him this past year and neither of them got significant game experience other than Nussmeier playing in the SECCG. So tell me again, how is Howard going to pass Nussmeier.


Very simple concept that most people have no problem grasping;

Howard is the better/higher ceiling guy, but needed the redshirt year to acclimate to the college game.
Nussmeier is in his second year @ LSU, saw some live action last year, and going into the season was more advanced in his development- so he was the backup this year.

A year later, you project Howard to have caught and passed Nussmeier.

Combine that with this:
LSU was in rough shape, totally rebuilding O Line, not a particularly imposing defense, and not enough depth to also fill out a good special teams roster. You don't want to toss a freshman into the fire in that scenario, and it would also help if the QB could be mobile as well as experienced. Enter Daniels, a perfect specimen to handle what might be expected to be a rough year or so, and who also has just the right experience and eligibility to bridge over to when Howard is ready.

We saw this in the preseason and expected it to happen this way, I don't understand how so many people just choose to ignore it now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:28 pm to
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You can’t believe this after watching Nuss with our receivers.

Did you watch him against Southern?
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15535 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:31 pm to
I call bullshite....nobody goes to practive everyday, except the players and coaches...

If Howard is good enough, Kelly will play him, period.
Posted by Double Down
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:32 pm to
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Because of Daniels. Are you serious?


He can’t compete because another qb is there?!? I can 100% assure you that was never said. That doesn’t even make sense… they will all compete and the best player wins the job. They’ve all been competing for most of their lives and this is no different. No one told Howard he wouldn’t be allowed to compete.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25723 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:34 pm to
He didn’t say his family was upset, he just said for next season, they want a fair shot for second string since he won’t be a redshirt.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14915 posts
Posted on 12/20/22 at 6:35 pm to
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Did you watch him against Southern?


He was trying to do Mahomes trick passes because we were playing a terrible team. He wouldn’t have done that in SEC play.
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