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re: New bill might nix NFL draft hopes for Army projected 1st round pick **UPDATE**

Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:16 pm to
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Liberals ruin everything. Example 12,693


Correct, the only reason that got put in is because another Dim is butthurt that Trump did something, so they have to undo it
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:23 pm to
These are your people
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9688 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:37 pm to
Brandon delaying this guy’s NFL career. Go figure.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:44 pm to
Because someone is a good athlete he good should get special or different treatment than his Academy brothers? This place rants about pampered athletes playing "children games" being put on pedestals.

Why should a great athlete get special treatment that other Cadets can't? Athletes are very different or special & should be treated differently is what I'm hearing here.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27769 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 10:45 pm to
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Whoever inserted this specific language into the bill needs to be outed and shamed.


This is part of the issue with 5000 page spending bills. There isn't a single congressman who knows everything that's in them.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
1235 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:17 pm to
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Yeah it's hard to feel sympathy for him when there are dudes who don't get into Annapolis or West Point even with a congressional letter.



For every cadet or midshipmen that attends the academy with a congressional nomination there are nine that don’t get accepted that also have the same nomination.

Only half of the cadets or midshipmen receive a congressional nomination. The rest get their nominations from other sources.

In some ways I agree with your sentiment, b/c the tax payers paid for his education and training. However, I also believe these athletes can be incredible marketing stories for the armed services and the academies when their story is repeated to ad nauseam every Sunday.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 11:41 pm
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6661 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:17 pm to
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agreement by a cadet or midshipman to play professional sport constitutes a breach of service obligation.


Beyond fricking laughable, the hypocrisy of the federal government is out of this world.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
1235 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 11:57 pm to
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Why should a great athlete get special treatment that other Cadets can't? Athletes are very different or special & should be treated differently is what I'm hearing here.


The same reason our super smart classmates were able to continue their education by accepting a Rhodes Scholarship or being allowed to attend medical school before fulfilling their service obligations.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 12:00 am
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/17/22 at 12:01 am to
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The same reason our super smart classmates were able to continue their education by accepting a Rhodes Scholarship or being allowed to attend a medical school before fulfilling their service obligations.
Thats fine . I hope you're here when people complain about athletes like Griner & others getting special treatment.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6661 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 12:21 am to
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athletes like Griner


Being a little generous with athlete, all BS aside, you would think the government could come up with something with a potential first round pick.
Posted by ChanceOfRainIsNever
Far from Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2146 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 12:46 am to
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Thats fine . I hope you're here when people complain about athletes like Griner & others getting special treatment.


Carter is an exceptional cadet like a Rhodes scholar or a cadet going to med school. If the Army makes exceptions for Rhodes scholars then then they should for a potential first round draft pick. Otherwise why play competitive D1 athletics at the service academies if they won’t allow the rare cadet who is pro material the opportunity to play professionally? It’s delay the commitment, not forgo it
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38831 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:00 am to
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Pretty shitty situation.


Didn't stop Roger Staubach. Why should today's military enlistees be any different?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58163 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:25 am to
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Whoever inserted this specific language into the bill needs to be outed and shamed.

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ESPN has learned w/@TishaESPN that Wisconsin Congressman Mike Gallagher @MikeforWI introduced the amendment that's putting Andre Carter's draft status in flux. His office didn't return requests for comment. Here's Gallagher's reasoning via committee debate:



LINK

Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:32 am to
Congressman Gallagher is correct. He had an opportunity to transfer out and chose not to.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 1:33 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35697 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 1:54 am to
See nothing wrong in his reasoning. They signed a contract, got paid and benefited from prestige and took a spot that is inherently hard to get.

The military gave you a shot when other P5 programs wouldn't, you exceeded your potential, and now you want out? This is the military. You gave up your free will when you signed up to be secure financially for 8-10 years. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You made a choice.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14898 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 2:51 am to
I don’t understand why kids go to these places in the first place.

Did they not see what happened to Pat Tillman? The demons that run this country do not value your lives. Same as any other government.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20373 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 3:58 am to
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No it is not. He made a commitment and should be required to stick by it. He could have gotten out after 2 years like any other cadet. This is another example of one of many things wrong in the country. No commitment to you obligations.

I guess the argument is changing the rules mid game on him. He had the option to go to NFL after playing at Army then completing commitment after NFL. Now saying new rules goes into effect immediately and you cant go back in time.
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 3:59 am
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Simcoe Strip - He/Him/Helicopter
Member since Oct 2011
36607 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 4:08 am to
Douche bill for peace time
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40881 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:27 am to
didn't this happen to david robinson when he was in the naval academy? I could swear he went into active service prior to going to the Spurs.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11020 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 6:45 am to
He did. Well I think he was officially in the reserves. His height was a problem. Can you imagine that dude on a submarine?
This post was edited on 12/17/22 at 6:46 am
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