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re: NZ Parents refuse vaccinated blood for life-saving surgery on their baby
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:53 pm to lsunurse
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:53 pm to lsunurse
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Refuse all the care you want as an adult….but when it’s a child involved the hospital will get courts involved to save their life
Give me a fckg break! So many left the medical field bc y’all were murdering patients by withholding IVM & HCQ and lying about a social experiment injection.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:00 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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Give me a fckg break! So many left the medical field bc y’all were murdering patients by withholding IVM & HCQ and lying about a social experiment injection.
She voted for the pedophile in the White House, she has no creditability.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:14 pm to 93and99
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She voted for the pedophile in the White House, she has no creditability.
That’s bad enough but anyone in the medical field who lied about the social experiment injection being a safe vaccine, is a cold blooded murderer.
They should lose their license…
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:24 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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That’s bad enough but anyone in the medical field who lied about the social experiment injection being a safe vaccine, is a cold blooded murderer.
They should lose their license…
Nurses and doctors acting under FDA guidance should lose their license?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:27 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Nurses and doctors acting under FDA guidance should lose their license?
You think acting under FDA guidance protects them if they had knowledge that the vaccine was dangerous?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:35 pm to oogabooga68
quote:should we do the same for flu shots?
Well, you need to fking start....
this is a stupid fricking thing and that baby deserves better parents.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:37 pm to moneyg
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You think acting under FDA guidance protects them if they had knowledge that the vaccine was dangerous?
If a vaccine is approved by the FDA and is pretty universally accepted as safe, then yeah they are protected. It's actually pretty wild to think they wouldn't be in that situation.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:37 pm to Timeoday
quote:This isn't a thing.
I have a surgery scheduled for mid-January. I am banking my pure blood the first week of January. My children, who are also pure bloods, are on standby if needed.
Bank your own pure blood. Heck, blood banks are paying a premium for it I hear.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:46 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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If a vaccine is approved by the FDA and is pretty universally accepted as safe, then yeah they are protected
No. Thinking the FDA gives blanket coverage that overrides their knowledge that he vaccine was dangerous is crazy.
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It's actually pretty wild to think they wouldn't be in that situation.
Under the premise that they knew it was dangerous? ok
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:49 pm to moneyg
all vaccines have risk of harm. That's standard. They're given because they lower relative risk.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:49 pm to oogabooga68
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e do not separate or label blood based on a donor’s Covid-19 vaccination status.”
This has to be false because they ask me every time when I donate.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:00 pm to TigerDoc
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all vaccines have risk of harm. That's standard. They're given because they lower relative risk.
Of course. That's exactly what the conversation between Dr. and patient should sound like.
Now, if doctors knew the benefit was close to zero and knew there was risk that outweighed that benefit, do you believe like Mickey that the FDA provides blanket protection?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:05 pm to oogabooga68
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Well, you need to fking start....
You can’t tell if someone is vaccinated. It’s not on a list and only if someone volunteers the information.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:06 pm to Timeoday
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Heck, blood banks are paying a premium for it I hear.
Source?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:09 pm to Timeoday
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blood banks are paying a premium for it I hear.
Literally anyone can say they aren’t vaccinated. There is no way to verify. I would be first in line to get paid, but it’s not true so we all are at home on TD.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:09 pm to moneyg
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No. Thinking the FDA gives blanket coverage that overrides their knowledge that he vaccine was dangerous is crazy.
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Under the premise that they knew it was dangerous? ok
What is this 'knowledge' you're talking about? Is it secret only to this one medical provider?
If something is generally accepted among an industry/field as being appropriate (mainly due to FDA approval), a single person is unlikely to lose their license over doing that same thing.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:09 pm to moneyg
Doctors are protected when they practice medicine within standards of care which are established by institutions with in our field like medical boards, specialty boards, practice guidelines, etc. Doctors giving FDA-approved vaccinations to at-risk populations to prevent illnesses for which it was tested are practicing within standards of care. Anybody can be sued or have a board complaint filed against them at any time, but giving a vaccine when you know there are harms associated with it isn't something that gets anyone in trouble. All vaccines have harms. Their use is justified by lowering the relative risk of overall harm including risks from the disease itself.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:10 pm to flyAU
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You can’t tell if someone is vaccinated. It’s not on a list and only if someone volunteers the information.
You think there isn't a list of people who have received the COVID vaccination?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:11 pm to moneyg
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Now, if doctors knew the benefit was close to zero and knew there was risk that outweighed that benefit, do you believe like Mickey that the FDA provides blanket protection?
Obviously regardless of FDA approval on anything, if a doctor knows that giving a specific patient some type of drug/vaccine/whatever will do more harm than good, yeah they would be in trouble and risk losing their license.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 5:12 pm to moneyg
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You think there isn't a list of people who have received the COVID vaccination?
The secret list that no one knows about except everyone at blood banks, hospitals, sperm banks, EMT’s etc know about?
Trust me. If there is a list it’s not available for people to get paid donating blood.
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