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re: NZ Parents refuse vaccinated blood for life-saving surgery on their baby
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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You’re assuming those doctors didn’t still believe the vaccine was worth getting.
I am. But that’s not important. We were working from a premise that they knew it did more harm than good. Did you forget that?
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:58 pm to deltaland
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Does the vaccine actually remain in your bloodstream?
Nope.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:20 pm to the_truman_shitshow
Regardless of the absolute lack of evidence (or rationale) for this proposed transfusable hypercoagulability…
Has anyone mentioned to these ignorant, fearful knuckleheads that packed red blood cells have had the plasma, white blood cells, and platelets removed?…
For the visual learners out there
Has anyone mentioned to these ignorant, fearful knuckleheads that packed red blood cells have had the plasma, white blood cells, and platelets removed?…
For the visual learners out there
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:24 pm to AndyJ
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These are the threads where you learn just how insane some of you are. JFC it’s their baby
Wanting good blood is crazy?
What’s crazy is ripping limbs off a baby and calling it reproductive rights.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:27 am to lsunurse
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And you should learn how the court system works when these cases were brought by the hospitals to a court and a court allowed doctors to proceed with the child receiving life saving blood transfusions
This doesn’t make you a legal expert in this matter because you weren’t in the court room or involved in the court case itself because a “former peds nurse” wouldn’t be called to the stand as a subject matter expert lmao
You also failed to acknowledge dependent upon specific state laws, parental rights are protected under the 14th Amendment. Independent research and citing reference material is something you should’ve learned in college.
Ever heard of a case study? Surely you’re not so ignorant as to realize that it takes approximately 7 YEARS on average for the FDA to approve drugs/vaccines and other products for medical use? Why is this vaccine STILL under EUA? That’s not an FDA approval. Ever see the FDA case study on mRNA vaccines in the 1980s? Guess what? They wouldn’t approve it then either, want to know why?
It had a high onset rate of AUTOIMMUNE diseases, coincides well with the HIV/AIDS pandemic during the same time period doesn’t it?
With your responses in this forum, I seriously question if you’re even a competent medical professional, I can tell you the only thing you’d do for my kids in a hospital is take down their insurance info for billing behind a computer screen..
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 12:29 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:27 am to Norbert
So there is a way to remove 100 percent of white blood cells from a donor? I'm just asking because the spinning removes the "majority" of white blood cells, but there is no way to remove them all. I'm sure you are quite aware of that.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:32 am to lsunurse
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Why? No blood bank separates blood donations based on any vaccination status.
Vaccinations are dangerous to some people. So is hepatitis, HIV, etc...
Do you want to risk tainted blood from either?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 3:39 am to moneyg
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They knew, or should have known.
Your goalposts. I saw them….
Your premise suggests that one doctor or each doctor has the time, resource, and facilities to conduct his/her own clinical trials.
They don’t. They’d have to follow anecdotal “evidence”. Then go against the two main regulatory bodies we’ve known for a century?
It’s a fantasy.
A discussion of what the CDC and FDA did is a separate issue. Care to dissect that? Fine. Has little to do with the average GP in a private practice.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:43 am to lsunurse
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No blood bank separates blood donations based on any vaccination status.
What the frick does that have to do with anything? They should be.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:49 am to Barstools
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What the frick does that have to do with anything? They should be.
It has to do with everything. What is being asked for in the OP article and by people supporting the parents stance DOES NOT EXIST.
“They should be” is wishful thinking.
We should have synthetic blood by now.
We should have long term artificial hearts by now.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:53 am to Barstools
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What the frick does that have to do with anything? They should be.
Just stating a fact. Units of blood from a blood bank are not labeled based on the vaccination status of the donor. There is no medical or science based reason to do so.
So there is no way to know you are getting this “unvaccinated” blood.
Go talk to someone that works in the industry and they will explain it all out to you.
ETA: You could possibly donate your own blood for a future surgery. However….blood is only good for 42 days and you can only donate so much every so many days. So you may not have enough of your own donated blood , they could still need to transfuse other blood if something happened.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 7:03 am
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:42 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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DOES NOT EXIST.
And what you just said has no bearing on the fact that IT SHOULD EXIST.
Thanks for your non sequitur, though.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:54 pm to Barstools
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IT SHOULD EXIST.
No it shouldn’t. Vaccines don’t transfer that way in the blood. Hence the reason why there is no medical or science based reason to label units of blood with that information
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:58 pm to lsunurse
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No it shouldn’t. Vaccines don’t transfer that way in the blood. Hence the reason why there is no medical or science based reason to label units of blood with that information
You’re lying again! The jab most certainly does transfer thru body fluids such as semen and breast milk.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 12:59 pm to LSUAngelHere1
Talk to someone that is over a blood bank and have them explain it to you. They will tell you the same thing.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:09 pm to moneyg
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Yes or no...
Is it reasonable for a middle aged man (47 for example) to decide that the vaccine isn't needed and the risk of the disease (low) isn't worth the risk of the vaccine (also low).
Could a smart, reasonable person reach that conclusion in your opinion?
It's generally reasonable to make health decisions for oneself. It depends on what his primary goals are, though. If his primary goal is to minimize his health risks, it's a better choice to choose to be vaccinated (based on current medical knowledge). If he feels refusing the vaccine is a conviction that's more important to him, it's reasonable to do that.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:14 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
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But can you test for Mrna shot. So that the blood can be separated.
Red Cross can tell from the antibodies. If you test "reactive" you're jabbed.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:15 pm to lsunurse
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Talk to someone that is over a blood bank and have them explain it to you. They will tell you the same thing.
They’ve been lying for 2 years so no one listens to any of these agencies anymore.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:17 pm to LSUAngelHere1
Then by all means if you think blood banks are not trustworthy why don’t you start gathering all your tin foil hat buddies and collect each other’s blood and stick in your fridge for later use. See how that works out for ya 
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:18 pm to TigerDoc
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If his primary goal is to minimize his health risks, it's a better choice to choose to be vaccinated (based on current medical knowledge).
What a crock of shite. Amazing that you can sit here and have the audacity to make this claim knowing the ones who got duped into getting a social experiment injection are the ones with all the problems and suddenly dying.
The better choice was to be treated with IVM & HCQ but y’all withheld it and murdered millions.
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