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Ukraine Military Aid
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:19 am
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:19 am
Can anyone link to a story which examines the sums of actual military aid which we have sent to Ukraine? Because it does not appear that most of the money we see discussed is either military OR sent to Ukraine.
As just one example, the $40 billion last spring included $16 billion in humanitarian aid. It included about $4 billion in spending on OUR military and another $2 billion to the militaries of NATO allies. Of the remainder, much was not slated to be SPENT for months or even years.
“We should not be spending ANY of that!”
OK, that is the response I expect from most. Good for you, if voicing that sentiment makes you feel better. Knock yourself out. But that is not the question I am asking.
As just one example, the $40 billion last spring included $16 billion in humanitarian aid. It included about $4 billion in spending on OUR military and another $2 billion to the militaries of NATO allies. Of the remainder, much was not slated to be SPENT for months or even years.
“We should not be spending ANY of that!”
OK, that is the response I expect from most. Good for you, if voicing that sentiment makes you feel better. Knock yourself out. But that is not the question I am asking.
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:20 am to AggieHank86
FTX records are sealed for bankruptcy proceedings.... LOL
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:34 am to AggieHank86
We’re helping Ukraine set the Red Army back for a while. Best bang for the buck assistance in my lifetime. Open the tap and finish the job.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:49 am to AggieHank86
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$40 billion
Appropriated by Congress and doled out in what are called "tranches".
Every time a tranche is announced the emotional and uneducated here think (wrongly) its is in addition to the 40 bil appropriated. Its not.
And that makes sense right we sent an initial package of military aid and then tailored the trances to what the Ukrainians need.
What is truly sad in some of the outrage threads about "more money for Ukraine" the linked story will actually say "this 750 million package of military aid is part of the 40 billion appropriation".
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:54 am to AggieHank86
Why even over-analyze it?
Honestly. Does anyone with a brain believe that this money is being spent wisely? Does anyone actually believe its not being used to pay off donors in the MIC and cronies overseas? The FTX story is just the tip of the iceberg.
Honestly. Does anyone with a brain believe that this money is being spent wisely? Does anyone actually believe its not being used to pay off donors in the MIC and cronies overseas? The FTX story is just the tip of the iceberg.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 8:55 am to AggieHank86
quote:
But that is not the question I am asking.
so what are you asking?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:11 am to AggieHank86
Why is it that all Ukrainian money seems to come back into our Politician’s hands. This is a huge scandal…….
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:25 am to AggieHank86
You know what? This post reminds me of all the moronic dems coming here complaining how high their health care went up during obamacare.
fricking no shite! We all know this is a global grift yet moronic politicians and the people that vote for them still want to give tax payer money to ukraine.
fricking no shite! We all know this is a global grift yet moronic politicians and the people that vote for them still want to give tax payer money to ukraine.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:24 am to AggieHank86
quote:I know it's a rhetorical question because you know nothing exists even resembling a true accounting of the money trail.
Can anyone link to a story which examines the sums of actual military aid which we have sent to Ukraine? Because it does not appear that most of the money we see discussed is either military OR sent to Ukraine.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:28 am to AggieHank86
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 10:30 am to AggieHank86
quote:
As just one example, the $40 billion last spring included $16 billion in humanitarian aid. It included about $4 billion in spending on OUR military and another $2 billion to the militaries of NATO allies. Of the remainder, much was not slated to be SPENT for months or even years.
“We should not be spending ANY of that!”
OK, that is the response I expect from most. Good for you, if voicing that sentiment makes you feel better. Knock yourself out. But that is not the question I am asking.
Then why bring it up? Why start a thread, asking 1 question, then adding a caveat to your question to excuse the spending, then follow that up with, "that's not the question i'm asking"? Are you incapable of posting like an intelligent human?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 11:06 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Can anyone link to a story which examines the sums of actual military aid which we have sent to Ukraine? Because it does not appear that most of the money we see discussed is either military OR sent to Ukraine.
As just one example, the $40 billion last spring included $16 billion in humanitarian aid. It included about $4 billion in spending on OUR military and another $2 billion to the militaries of NATO allies. Of the remainder, much was not slated to be SPENT for months or even years.
This link from the Center of Strategic and International Studies makes some attempt to show the allocation of the money and references your point that some will not be spent for years. Also breaks down #s for military vs humanitarian vs Ukranian & US govt.
CSIS - Aid to Ukraine explained in 6 charts
It certainly isn't a complete picture... I suspect actual spending and movement of assets is very opaque and you won't be able to find a clear trail.
There are other articles on the homepage of this site which also somewhat speak to the topic, though I don't know how well or what their angle is.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:40 pm to AggieHank86
I just came here to downvote your post. that is all. you're a phag.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 12:44 pm to AggieHank86
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Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:03 pm to AggieHank86
You should go to Ukraine with your trannie boyfriend.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 3:37 pm to AggieHank86
Real Libertarians don't support this shite.
You are a RINO.
You are a RINO.
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