re: American Bar Association drops LSAT requirement for Law School admissions

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I’ve only taken it once, and even then a decade ago, so I can’t speak from personal experience. With that said, passage rates don’t seem to have shifted all that markedly, at least last I looked. Have you heard anything specific?

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Can't remember specifically, but I seem to recall someone saying it's basically not even proctored and pretty much an open book test.

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It’s being done explicitly for diversity purposes. You’re just another leftist poster who gets uncomfortable at seeing your own beliefs in action.

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They want the standards removed to benefit specific groups but they also don't want anyone pointing out that very fact.

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Can't remember specifically, but I seem to recall someone saying it's basically not even proctored and pretty much an open book test.

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That would genuinely shock the shite out of me. When I took it, exam security was insane. Now I’m curious, though. I’ll ask around with some of the new lawyers I know.

Joy? Ipso Facto. Was succinctly concurring with your opinions in a satirical manner. Forgive my attempt at simple humor with the incorrect assumption that SULS is inferior to other law programs. This is a subject with which I have no inside knowledge of, only hearsay. The merit of experience is far superior to any gained through vocational means. To use another latin phrase that I am quite fond of - Acta non verba.

Yes we really need more people that can’t meet standards racking up over $100K in student debt and out practicing law.
fricking clown ABA.

I think you’re a troll but whatever.

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And there are plenty of other races practicing also


you could have fooled me, You guys says it’s just for blacks. Why would it be for us all of a sudden, it’s for the immigrants that’s coming in to help you guys out.

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Are you pretending or are you really this dumb?

When it comes to academic “diversity” initiatives, it’s always intended to bump up the numbers of blacks and to a lesser extent Hispanics. Asians are already over represented so such initiatives dont benefit them.

The ABA loves racial quotas, and it certainly isn’t for all races:

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Last week, the ABA filed an amicus brief in a U.S. Supreme Court case that could severely limit the ability of colleges and universities to use a student's race as a factor in admissions. The case, Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard, was brought by a group of Asian students who claim Harvard University illegally discriminated against them by limiting the number of admitted applicants from their demographic. In its brief, the ABA implored the court to continue to allow colleges to consider race in admissions, claiming that prohibiting it would "inflict great harm on the legal profession and the nation."

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I mean, it isn’t a secret why they’re doing this:

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Researchers have identified significant disparities in LSAT scores across racial groups. A 2019 study found the average score for Black LSAT takers was 142 out of a possible 180, compared to 153 for white and Asian test takers.

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But fine, let’s pretend this is somehow aimed only at boosting immigrant admissions. Is that somehow better?

Law schools, like academia in general, are absolutely obsessed with SJW nonsense. It’s about the “cause”, not about training good lawyers. For example, Georgetown recently pulled out of the US News rankings because the metrics for those rankings weren’t woke enough:

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The dean of Georgetown’s law school, William M. Treanor, said in a statement that Georgetown’s mission was to educate lawyers, legal scholars and citizens “committed to the struggle for justice and protecting the rights of the most vulnerable among us.”

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The goal is to train armies of activist leftists and getting rid of standardized competently and aptitude tests help them do that.

You can pretend that none of this is true, but you understand it’s only pretend.

As if there is any lack of access to dogshit law schools in this country. They are a dime a dozen. This is a last ditch ploy for the many shite schools to continue to sucker students in while setting them up for failure in the profession.

If Higher Ed was a stock, I’d short the shite out of it with leverage. The whole business model is pathetic.

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As if there already arent too many lawyers

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If you mean in a philosophical sense then that is nearly impossible to argue since one could have the opinion that 1 lawyer is too many.

If you are talking about the actual industry it depends. There are plenty of lawyers with a pulse and a degree but we are seeing a significant shortage. We saw an increase in demand at my firm of ~12% in '21 and about the same in '22. This is potential growth like we hadn't seen for a decade it had been in the 4% range since 2010. The demand in the pool we hire from has skyrocketed and become a sellers market.