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re: UPDATE: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:41 pm to I20goon
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:41 pm to I20goon
BK being a drug dealer is an interesting theory. Would explain the numerous trips to the house's vicinity in recent months and also why the roommate may have been hesitant to call the police. And also why he allegedly asked if anyone else had been arrested.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 10:43 pm
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Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:41 pm to MrWalkingMan
That was explained early on. They couldn't access the rooms. Supposedly they could see in a window and that's the reason for thinking unconscious. I'm sure if the cops on scene knew that story to not make sense they would have dug deeper. That initial report seems to make the most sense.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:44 pm to Ostrich
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BK being a drug dealer is an interesting theory.
That would be very easy to show. There'd be numerous calls and communication between him and the girls.
I would think they'd have been onto him earlier if so.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:51 pm to I20goon
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Nothing nefarious, but that's the all time mostest head-in-sand syndrome ever. Multiple red flags at 4:15 am and 7 hrs later does the alarm go out. That puzzles me.
I feel for the girl, but this is really strange. I could see a sheltered college girl being frozen in fear for half an hour or even an hour, but 7 hours raises eyebrows.
The defense is going to hammer her with every uncomfortable question on planet earth. Alcohol use, drug use, possibly even sexual history of herself or her roommates. Such as “why were you not alarmed by a strange man roaming the house late at night?”
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:52 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
That video is highly enhanced. At normal audio, you may not hear much at all.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:53 pm to MrWalkingMan
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the 911 call reportedly was for an unconscious roommate
One of the fathers said the roommate that called 911 was so upset she was hyperventilating and the operator could barely understand her. They likely classified it as unconscious because all they could make out was that someone was on the ground.
That said, there’s a lot of confusion about what happened in the morning leading up until the 911 call. I’m wondering if the police will ever clarify it.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:57 pm to MrWalkingMan
I'm imagining there's a whole other layer of details that are known to the authorities that just haven't been released.
Remember, an affidavit is just there to show some evidence to press charges, not prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt to convict.
Although, the recently released affidavit is more detailed than necessary, I still believe there is quite more already known that wasn't included, such as details of what happened at the house between 4:25 AM and the 11:58 AM 911 call.
Those details clearly involve a time period when the charged suspect was not at the crime scene, so they're virtually unnecessary.
Later on, a defense may could use them to their advantage for whatever reasons, such as any crazy admittance that the victims knew BK.
Again, the purpose of the affidavit is to be able to press charges and that was successfully achieved.
Remember, an affidavit is just there to show some evidence to press charges, not prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt to convict.
Although, the recently released affidavit is more detailed than necessary, I still believe there is quite more already known that wasn't included, such as details of what happened at the house between 4:25 AM and the 11:58 AM 911 call.
Those details clearly involve a time period when the charged suspect was not at the crime scene, so they're virtually unnecessary.
Later on, a defense may could use them to their advantage for whatever reasons, such as any crazy admittance that the victims knew BK.
Again, the purpose of the affidavit is to be able to press charges and that was successfully achieved.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:57 pm to The Pirate King
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but this is really strange
Probably because she didn't think too much about it, until the next day. Hindsight memories aren't very good following trauma.
I think people are overthinking this aspect.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:58 pm to Ostrich
Honestly I find BK to be a bizarre walking contradiction. He’s obviously into understanding criminal activity on a much deeper level than your average person. He conducts research involving criminals. He has an interest in cloud based forensics. He’s pursuing a PhD in the subject matter. He has an enormous breadth of knowledge in criminal behavior but yet he’s unable to put any of it to use. He’s incredibly sloppy. He knows cell phone tech can put him at the location but the only time he ever turned his phone off was when he left his house to commit the murders. He brings a very distinct knife with a very distinct sheath to the crime. He chooses a location with less than ideal vehicle access. It’s not easy to get in and out of. I could keep going but you get my drift. It’s as if he was incapable of applying his knowledge of criminal subject matter to avoid leaving incriminating evidence or he didn’t really care either way if ge got caught.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 10:59 pm to dukke v
quote:So the suspect will not be convicted.
This case is a slam dunk like OJ should have been.
Thanks Peej for bringing your usual “180° Out” clarity to this issue.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:00 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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or he didn’t really care either way if ge got caught.
I'm leaning this way.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:03 pm to soccerfüt
Tead my post again idiot.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm leaning this way.
The guy just wanted to be a criminal and infamous. He became what he was deeply fascinated by. It wasn’t about committing the perfect crime but the crime.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Has the possibility of him hiding in the house before committing the murders been mentioned?
That would explain how he was able to enter the house. Perhaps he was hiding in the house while everyone was out partying that night. It would answer the question of how he was able to enter the house after the DoorDash delivery- he actually entered beforehand.
ETA- Nevermind, I’m an idiot.
That would explain how he was able to enter the house. Perhaps he was hiding in the house while everyone was out partying that night. It would answer the question of how he was able to enter the house after the DoorDash delivery- he actually entered beforehand.
ETA- Nevermind, I’m an idiot.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:10 pm to DosManos
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Has the possibility of him hiding in the house before committing the murders been mentioned?
Door dash arrived at 4am. His car is seen on camera parking at 4:04 am. His car was seen also circling in the area around 3:30. He didn’t enter the house until he was ready kill
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:11 pm to DosManos
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Has the possibility of him hiding in the house before committing the murders been mentioned?
Tell me you haven’t read the report without telling me you haven’t read the report
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:20 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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The guy just wanted to be a criminal and infamous.
I believe so.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:26 pm to dukke v
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Tead my post again idiot.
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:32 pm to AUWDE
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Wrong. They can compel the court to enforce her compliance, and since she was used in the probable cause affidavit you can bet your arse the court will enforce it. Prosecution can’t use her to justify arrest then say “oh no no sorry she’s off limits”. Look it sucks for this girl, but it is what it is at this point. You think the defense is going to go easy on her because the defense attorney is a woman? No. That attorney’s prime responsibility is to create as much doubt as possible and punch as many holes in the prosecution’s story as she can and she will use whatever means necessary to do that. This girl was made a part of this case when they included her in the affidavit.
What is the legal basis for this? She’s not charged with a crime. She’s a witness. State can’t take her blood as part of an investigation in which she is not a suspect and without a warrant. The defense certainly can’t compel it. Think about what you are saying. In your world, literally every car accident witness, domestic abuse witness, bar fight witness would be compelled to give a drug test so the defense could mess with them if they smoked weed 2 weeks ago.
Can the defense question her about her sobriety? Sure. Are they getting a drug test. Never.
This post was edited on 1/7/23 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 1/7/23 at 11:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This is the extended video from above. Forgot to post this link.
Its a longer version with the ending cut off, the ending is in the link I posted above.
Back to the audio recording, I asked earlier if the door in the video was the sliding glass door because I was trying to understand how the ring door bell captured the audio. I speculated that perhaps the door he entered was left open allowing for clearer audio to be captured.
check this out. I saw it a few minutes ago while looking through the Pappa Rodgers info on the Dailey Mail website. It's from another purported online persona called InsideLooking also believed to be him.
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Entered sliding door and left it open. Committed murders and exited sliding door.
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