re: UPDATE: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)

Not directed at you but i just read this. It seems the house may have been a party house for other tenants but not these girls

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Neighbors told The Post on Thursday the six people who shared the house were quieter than their rowdy collegiate neighbors. The group of students would have small parties, but they were usually quiet by 10 p.m., said Heather Tetwiler, 22. They would sit on the patio around a fire, drink beer and listen to music, and she said she sometimes saw small groups of people in the kitchen.

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Not directed at you but i just read this. It seems the house may have been a party house for other tenants but not these girls

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It was an extreme party house, especially for these girls. Look at all the noise complaints last fall. Those girls were stumbling out the house high and drunk af. Was a female animal house.

Here is a body cam of one of the victims: LINK

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Incredible 3d walkthrough of the house. After going through the house and tracing the killers route from the notes in the affidavit, it seems to me the most logical thing is he went in through the side glassdoor intending to go up and kill one or both of the girls on the 3rd floor only.

And then on the way out ran into another party in Xana in some form or fashion who was still up from the food and TikTok. Causing him to instead of leaving go through the other side of the house and take the other two out in the far bedroom on the second floor. Before then heading back to the kitchen and out the glass door.

My guess is those two were accidental, not planned and louder, so panicked after that and left not noticing the other roommate on the second floor as he’s passing her room. The knife (probably still in his right hand since he’s right handed and no sheath) would most likely have not been seen from the surviving roommate since it was on that side of his body as he speed by her door through the kitchen to his car speeding out of the driveway. This I’m assuming spooked her but would not have tipped her off of the full damage done in the house. Having lived in a party house myself on the square in Oxford, I could easily see the potential reaction of.. “Hey that was strange, I’ll lock my door to be safe and find out what happened when I wake up at noon tomorrow

Cell phone pings put him in the neighborhood on August 21, 2022.

School started on August 22, 2022.

That doesn't seem coincidental.

Was he roaming around the Idaho campus/housing area watching people move in? Scouting?

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The only thing i can come up with is she thought maybe Maddie was about to be raped or maybe Kaylee was?
and Ethan rescued whichever girl was about to be raped? and the all clad in black stranger took off so she went to bed around 5am thinking good riddens!

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I really don't want to know how your warped mind came up with this scenario...but here's a rational one

Dylan was awoken by commotion upstairs and she rationalizes it was her roommate and her dog. Lays back down in bed.

A little later she hears someone say "there's someone here" but obviously that wasn't said in an alarmed manner, otherwise others in the house would have been alerted. With the purported reputation of this house and the number of people that lived there, "someone" being inside wouldn't be a rare occurrence. Cracks the doors and doesn't see anyone. Without any further context, this again could easily be rationalized as nothing.

She then hears crying and a male saying "It's okay I'm here to help you" which sounds like a pretty typical gf/bf situation, so she rationalizes its Xana & Ethan. Cracks the door again and sees nothing.

She cracks the door a third time and sees some guy dressed in black with a partial face covering leaving. Creepy and startling yeah, but probably not the first stranger she's seen leave the house at night, plus she heard one of her roommates say earlier "there's someone here" so that kind of accounts for this stranger, plus he's leaving. Odd occurrence and she probably plans to ask her roommates about the guy in the morning. She locks her door as most anyone would do if you knew a stranger (to you) was in your house at night.

She maybe hears the dog barking...so what, dogs bark. She possibly hears some "thuds"...again, there's a dog and 2 people on the floor above her. If you live in a multistory, you know how loud the smallest things can be.

Most people's minds (except the poster in here that envisioned every night her family was going to be murdered in some fashion) are designed to organize and rationalize everything they experience into something they have experienced previously. So you hear a strange noise but you know people and a dog are upstairs, well it must be that. Also being in a house that had 5 roommates along with whatever people they might bring over, you and your mind learn to tune out a whole lot of shite.

We also have to keep in mind this is her recounting the events many hours later and after she has found out 4 of her friends were murdered, so on top of being devastated, terrified, guilt ridden, etc, her mind is trying to piece together all this information and is putting more emphasis on these things she heard and saw. But when it was happening in real time, all of it probably seemed much less important and she was probably just annoyed that her roommates and the dog were keeping her awake.


TLDR Dylan could have rationalized everything she heard and saw that night because nothing from her vantage point (her room) was unusual.

I think he may have originally crossed paths with them at the restaurant, but doubt he was a regular there. He was a poor student/TA, and $8for pita bread and dip was an extravagance he probably had to pass on. Plus, they made pizza and the smell of all that cheese and meat permeating the air would have been offensive to him.

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Where is this from? I thought third floor girls were killed first?

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I'm not sure that part of the timeline has necessarily been determined. Was posting this more for the layout.

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We also have to keep in mind this is her recounting the events many hours later and after she has found out 4 of her friends were murdered

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I'm willing to bet that it is entirely possible that a different set of events could have occurred.
Many studies have shown that people are not very good at recollecting exact words heard, exact chain of events, exact sights seen when asked. Mix in the fact it was very late night, dark, etc. and the odds of a perfect recall may be pretty low.
Not saying she's trying to cover up, or trying to mis lead, just she's doing her best recollection and that's all we have. But, he's pretty much guilty, even without any comment or witness from her.

I'll throw this possibility out there:
Perhaps if this guy had been around the other girls in the past, perhaps Dylan may have recognized him and maybe she wasn't as worried because of that.