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Are we really living longer than people in the past?

Posted on 11/13/22 at 6:59 pm
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 6:59 pm
It is a common idea that life expectancy now is longer than in the past. But is that true, or are the numbers from earlier generations skewed due to higher infant and child mortality rates?

Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago that lived long lives. Maybe if you made it to adulthood back then you were no different than people today with regards to life expectancy?

Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:00 pm to
One pots or two?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

It is a common idea that life expectancy now is longer than in the past. But is that true, or are the numbers from earlier generations skewed due to higher infant and child mortality rates?


both are true.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:02 pm to
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Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago


I bet there are. Done cracked the code, amigo.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:04 pm to
Lol what are you analyzing life span rate average spreadsheets from the bc era?
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9399 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:06 pm to
Yes. And it's terrible if the person has serious issues. Modern
medicine prolongs the suffering of the patient and the family. I'm up to my eyeballs in elderly care. Zero quality of life and just ornery. Holy hell.
Posted by TDFreak
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:09 pm to
Yellow fever. Malaria. Polio. Widespread smoking. Excessive drinking (usually alcohol was cleaner than water). Extremely grueling manual jobs that exposed you to risk of injury/death and long term disabilities. No antibiotics. No hand washing. Wars.

Living past 40 was a big deal for many centuries.

We only had the challenge of taking care of a large number of elderly just recently (social security, pensions, elder-specific healthcare). Talking just this past century.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:15 pm to
Yes. The average adult life span is longer, even if you remove infant mortality.
Posted by TDFreak
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:17 pm to
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Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago that lived long lives.
I’d wager the people who could afford headstones also were more financially well off. And a better financial status usually means a longer life span.

There are a lot of dead whose families could not afford such things as a proper burial. So, there are no dates to see.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:21 pm to
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Centenarian.

Who died before WW2.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:25 pm to
It’s increasing.

I saw a terrifying video from a doctor talking about how effective healthcare is if people go to regular checkups. They can keep pretty much anyone alive for a really long time. It’s quality of life and the burden on families and society that will be the most affected.
Posted by jcaz
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:27 pm to
Yeah those are just the ones with enough money for a headstone
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:28 pm to
Yes, that's what happens with advancement in medicine
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29453 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

Are we really living longer than people in the past


No. It just seems like it because the world is so shitty that life is dragging by.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:42 pm to
Would be interesting to see data of expected years. Or whatever you'd call it.
Example, today an 80 year old has a certain expected number of years left. Maybe 6 years. A 90 year old has a certain number of years left. Maybe 3.
What were these numbers decades ago?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

It is a common idea that life expectancy now is longer than in the past. But is that true



One group of people you can bet don't screw up often are insurance actuaries. They might not be 100% at predicting the future but they do a good job "predicting" the past and present.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:52 pm to
Here’s a fun fact I recently learned from the internet*:

There are currently more centenarians alive today than previously existed in recorded history.

*it must be true
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

It is a common idea that life expectancy now is longer than in the past. But is that true
Yes, it is true.
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or are the numbers from earlier generations skewed due to higher infant and child mortality rates?
This does skew life expectancy figures, on purpose.
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Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago that lived long lives. Maybe if you made it to adulthood back then you were no different than people today with regards to life expectancy?
Modern medicine makes a difference.

I think you are confusing life expectancy with human life span. The max length of a human life hasn't changed much in the last few thousands of years. Given good genes and good luck, humans in the past could live past 100 just as they do today.

Life expectancy is a probability, and it changes as you get older and as your risk factors change. Modern medicine mostly just helps more people get closer to the max human life span, which increases the life expectancy calculation.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114069 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 9:22 pm to
Antibiotics played a huge role in the spike in the average life span.
Posted by BoudinChicot
Member since Sep 2021
1080 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 10:27 pm to
Yes, but recently they have fallen from 20th century levels due to widespread drug addiction sadly.
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