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Are we really living longer than people in the past?
Posted on 11/13/22 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 11/13/22 at 6:59 pm
It is a common idea that life expectancy now is longer than in the past. But is that true, or are the numbers from earlier generations skewed due to higher infant and child mortality rates?
Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago that lived long lives. Maybe if you made it to adulthood back then you were no different than people today with regards to life expectancy?
Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago that lived long lives. Maybe if you made it to adulthood back then you were no different than people today with regards to life expectancy?
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:01 pm to weagle99
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It is a common idea that life expectancy now is longer than in the past. But is that true, or are the numbers from earlier generations skewed due to higher infant and child mortality rates?
both are true.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:02 pm to weagle99
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Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago
I bet there are. Done cracked the code, amigo.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:04 pm to weagle99
Lol what are you analyzing life span rate average spreadsheets from the bc era?
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:06 pm to weagle99
Yes. And it's terrible if the person has serious issues. Modern
medicine prolongs the suffering of the patient and the family. I'm up to my eyeballs in elderly care. Zero quality of life and just ornery. Holy hell.
medicine prolongs the suffering of the patient and the family. I'm up to my eyeballs in elderly care. Zero quality of life and just ornery. Holy hell.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:09 pm to weagle99
Yellow fever. Malaria. Polio. Widespread smoking. Excessive drinking (usually alcohol was cleaner than water). Extremely grueling manual jobs that exposed you to risk of injury/death and long term disabilities. No antibiotics. No hand washing. Wars.
Living past 40 was a big deal for many centuries.
We only had the challenge of taking care of a large number of elderly just recently (social security, pensions, elder-specific healthcare). Talking just this past century.
Living past 40 was a big deal for many centuries.
We only had the challenge of taking care of a large number of elderly just recently (social security, pensions, elder-specific healthcare). Talking just this past century.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:15 pm to weagle99
Yes. The average adult life span is longer, even if you remove infant mortality.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:17 pm to weagle99
quote:I’d wager the people who could afford headstones also were more financially well off. And a better financial status usually means a longer life span.
Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago that lived long lives.
There are a lot of dead whose families could not afford such things as a proper burial. So, there are no dates to see.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:21 pm to weagle99
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:25 pm to weagle99
It’s increasing.
I saw a terrifying video from a doctor talking about how effective healthcare is if people go to regular checkups. They can keep pretty much anyone alive for a really long time. It’s quality of life and the burden on families and society that will be the most affected.
I saw a terrifying video from a doctor talking about how effective healthcare is if people go to regular checkups. They can keep pretty much anyone alive for a really long time. It’s quality of life and the burden on families and society that will be the most affected.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:27 pm to weagle99
Yeah those are just the ones with enough money for a headstone
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:28 pm to weagle99
Yes, that's what happens with advancement in medicine
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:31 pm to weagle99
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Are we really living longer than people in the past
No. It just seems like it because the world is so shitty that life is dragging by.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:42 pm to weagle99
Would be interesting to see data of expected years. Or whatever you'd call it.
Example, today an 80 year old has a certain expected number of years left. Maybe 6 years. A 90 year old has a certain number of years left. Maybe 3.
What were these numbers decades ago?
Example, today an 80 year old has a certain expected number of years left. Maybe 6 years. A 90 year old has a certain number of years left. Maybe 3.
What were these numbers decades ago?
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:46 pm to weagle99
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It is a common idea that life expectancy now is longer than in the past. But is that true
One group of people you can bet don't screw up often are insurance actuaries. They might not be 100% at predicting the future but they do a good job "predicting" the past and present.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:52 pm to weagle99
Here’s a fun fact I recently learned from the internet*:
There are currently more centenarians alive today than previously existed in recorded history.
*it must be true
There are currently more centenarians alive today than previously existed in recorded history.
*it must be true
Posted on 11/13/22 at 7:53 pm to weagle99
quote:Yes, it is true.
It is a common idea that life expectancy now is longer than in the past. But is that true
quote:This does skew life expectancy figures, on purpose.
or are the numbers from earlier generations skewed due to higher infant and child mortality rates?
quote:Modern medicine makes a difference.
Walk around a cemetery and it seems like there are plenty of dead adults from 100+ years ago that lived long lives. Maybe if you made it to adulthood back then you were no different than people today with regards to life expectancy?
I think you are confusing life expectancy with human life span. The max length of a human life hasn't changed much in the last few thousands of years. Given good genes and good luck, humans in the past could live past 100 just as they do today.
Life expectancy is a probability, and it changes as you get older and as your risk factors change. Modern medicine mostly just helps more people get closer to the max human life span, which increases the life expectancy calculation.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 9:22 pm to weagle99
Antibiotics played a huge role in the spike in the average life span.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 10:27 pm to weagle99
Yes, but recently they have fallen from 20th century levels due to widespread drug addiction sadly.
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