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Excellent article in The Federalist: "We Need to Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives"
Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:55 pm
The Federalist
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Why? Because the conservative project has largely failed, and it is time for a new approach.
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So what kind of politics should conservatives today, as inheritors of a failed movement, adopt? For starters, they should stop thinking of themselves as conservatives (much less as Republicans) and start thinking of themselves as radicals, restorationists, and counterrevolutionaries.
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Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to get used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it.
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On the transgender question, conservatives will have to repudiate utterly the cowardly position of people like David French, in whose malformed worldview Drag Queen Story Hour at a taxpayer-funded library is a “blessing of liberty.” Conservatives need to get comfortable saying in reply to people like French that Drag Queen Story Hour should be outlawed; that parents who take their kids to drag shows should be arrested and charged with child abuse; that doctors who perform so-called “gender-affirming” interventions should be thrown in prison
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:57 pm to Piney Flats
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restorationists
Dibs. I like this one
Posted on 10/21/22 at 8:58 pm to Shankopotomus
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restorationists
Or Constitutionalists
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:02 pm to Piney Flats
Knew this would come. Just going to copy the antics of the left.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:04 pm to Piney Flats
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Why? Because the conservative project has largely failed, and it is time for a new approach.
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So what kind of politics should conservatives today, as inheritors of a failed movement, adopt? For starters, they should stop thinking of themselves as conservatives (much less as Republicans) and start thinking of themselves as radicals, restorationists, and counterrevolutionaries.
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Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to get used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it.
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On the transgender question, conservatives will have to repudiate utterly the cowardly position of people like David French, in whose malformed worldview Drag Queen Story Hour at a taxpayer-funded library is a “blessing of liberty.” Conservatives need to get comfortable saying in reply to people like French that Drag Queen Story Hour should be outlawed; that parents who take their kids to drag shows should be arrested and charged with child abuse; that doctors who perform so-called “gender-affirming” interventions should be thrown in prison
100% truth. We failed to conserve anything of import. It's time to embrace the role of reactionaries.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:06 pm to Piney Flats
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Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to get used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it.
Bingo
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:08 pm to Piney Flats
Reading that got me fired up !
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:10 pm to Piney Flats
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We Need to Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives
Honestly I prefer fascist
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:12 pm to Jjdoc
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Put bluntly, if conservatives want to save the country they are going to have to get used to the idea of wielding power, not despising it.
Bingo
At some point to combat socialism, you need to embrace some fascism
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Knew this would come. Just going to copy the antics of the left.
OK, please explain how conserving the constitution, basic morals, basic ethics, is somehow copying the antics of the left?
McConnell and Ms. Lindsey(and others) already bend the knee to libs.
So, you want that route to continue or fight for basic freedoms with restrictions i.e. (not violate moral values-murder, theft, threats to the public(riots), threats to pols on their property, etc)
Woody Dumas put a stop to any bs in the late 60's in BR by telling street thugs they would be shot if they violate curfew and/or vandalize. Nothing happened. Thugs stayed home.
It's time.
What is your brilliant solution?
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:13 pm to Piney Flats
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On the transgender question, conservatives will have to repudiate utterly the cowardly position of people like David French, in whose malformed worldview Drag Queen Story Hour at a taxpayer-funded library is a “blessing of liberty.”
The only reason David French exists as a media entity is because he is useful to the Marxists. He takes the positions that makes the anti-theist, anti-American, Marxist left’s point for them.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:17 pm to bobBoxer
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Honestly I prefer fascist
That's what they'll label you as anyway.
"If you're explaining, you're losing" - rather than failing their shite test "no no you're wrong because of this definition don't call me that actually you are the real fascist".... instead just respond "okay"
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Knew this would come. Just going to copy the antics of the left.
It's been a long time since I paid any attention to baseball, but it used to be that the AL had the DH rule and the NL didn't. Purists don't like it, and I tend to agree to the extent that I care, which is little. In any event, the NL stayed "pure" and didn't adopt the DH.
During the World Series, however, the compromise was that when the game was at an AL stadium the DH rule was in effect, when it was at a NL stadium it wasn't. It would have been suicidal for the NL team to eschew the DH rule during games when the other team was taking advantage of it. They could have done so out of principle, but they would have lost a lot more games and lost a lot more World Series. I suppose it depends on what you think is important: playing by the rules you wish were in effect or playing by the rules that are actually in effect.
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:18 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Or Constitutionalists
Christian nationalism is my preference.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:23 pm to Piney Flats
I just say, “freedom loving constitutionalist.”
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:23 pm to Piney Flats
Unfortunately
Being for America is now some manner of ist
Not good long term
Being for America is now some manner of ist
Not good long term
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:25 pm to HailToTheChiz
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Constitutionalists
Been calling myself this for years. Guess I should have wrote an article about it.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:25 pm to Piney Flats
Remediationists
The trap is the one we saw when MAGA was born - Leftists asked “when was America great?” No matter what the answer was, there was always something negative to point to like slavery, Jim Crow, child labor, pollution, etc.
The trap is the one we saw when MAGA was born - Leftists asked “when was America great?” No matter what the answer was, there was always something negative to point to like slavery, Jim Crow, child labor, pollution, etc.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:28 pm to Piney Flats
"Constitutionalist" "freedom-loving"
You all are seriously missing the point of the article on the necessary labels moving forward. Those two are the hallmark bedrocks of the failed conservatism of the last 50 years. They aren't concrete or specific. The time for abstractions is over.
You all are seriously missing the point of the article on the necessary labels moving forward. Those two are the hallmark bedrocks of the failed conservatism of the last 50 years. They aren't concrete or specific. The time for abstractions is over.
Posted on 10/21/22 at 9:30 pm to Piney Flats
The social compact is dead. The Constitution has been relegated to nothing more than a dusty piece of a paper. A nice little artifact, maybe they can break it out next time Lizzo is in DC and let her twerk with it between her fat arse.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm just interested in my side winning. I'm cool with doing what it takes to win, as long as it doesn't violate the laws of God. I don't see the need to painstakingly look for reasons we can't do something because we are so principled, while the left tries to castrate our children and steal our sovereignty, and send federal agents after us with flak jackets and high powered rifles all before our very own eyes.
It's a steel cage match, mono e mono, 2 men enter, only one may leave. In the words of the great Mills Lane, "Let's get it on"
As far as I'm concerned, I'm just interested in my side winning. I'm cool with doing what it takes to win, as long as it doesn't violate the laws of God. I don't see the need to painstakingly look for reasons we can't do something because we are so principled, while the left tries to castrate our children and steal our sovereignty, and send federal agents after us with flak jackets and high powered rifles all before our very own eyes.
It's a steel cage match, mono e mono, 2 men enter, only one may leave. In the words of the great Mills Lane, "Let's get it on"
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 9:32 pm
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